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Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Node Sequencing [Was: **** Instant Outlining !!! ***]

I know of no patent infringement issues; zigzag was published a long time 
ago and I know of no patents on it.  OTOH, the gzz folks used to call 
themselves GZigZag and, at the urgings of Ted, dropped all references to 
ZigZag for trademark reasons. Ted's gonna have trouble with 
trademarks.  Just google zigzag to see why.    (01)

No, you shouldn't back off anything.  I'm watching some really terrific 
creativity at work here.  I just injected zigzag to add a bit of 
spice.  Frankly, zigzag is one of those technologies that captivates me in 
a BigWay(tm), but, also frankly, I hate playing with gzz; it may well be 
that I'm not able to think in enough dimensions at the same time to make it 
worthwhile, though I confess that watching Ted run it in his demos is an 
awesome site to behold.    (02)

Jack    (03)

At 04:09 PM 4/23/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Jack Park wrote:
>>At 10:21 AM 4/23/2002 +0000, Murray Altheim wrote:
>>I am watching this and it occurs to me that this discussion is roaming 
>>awfully close to describing Ted Nelson's ZigZag http://xanadu.com/zigzag/
>>  and also at http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/gzz/, an open source Java 
>> program based on the zigzag structure.
>>http://xanadu.com/zigzag/tutorial/ZZwelcome.html is a tutorial: "A half 
>>an hour that might change your life!"
>>You simply must read the tutorial and play with gzz; there is no way I 
>>can explain it other than with this visualization: imagine tiny cells of 
>>addressable information existing in a large container.  Then, imagine 
>>taking needle and thread and stitching together into a string (a 
>>dimension!) whatever cells you like.  Then imagine another dimension 
>>stitching together more cells (and some of those already captured in 
>>another dimension).  Do this for a while and you have a massive, 
>>multidimensional representation of whatever those cells are about.  Now, 
>>you need to pull views out of that space.  That's what the gzz interface 
>>does.  With visual tricks, it gives you an approximation of any 3 
>>dimensions you want to see at the same time.
>Are you saying that this has already been done and I should lay off
>the idea in order to avoid a patent infringement lawsuit?
>PS. Thanks for the link. I'll take a look.
>Murray Altheim                  <http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/murray/>
>Knowledge Media Institute
>The Open University, Milton Keynes, Bucks, MK7 6AA, UK
>      In the evening
>      The rice leaves in the garden
>      Rustle in the autumn wind
>      That blows through my reed hut.  -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu    (04)