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Re: [ba-ohs-talk] What's a HyperScope?

On Wed, 29 May 2002, James Michael DuPont wrote:    (01)

> > - a purple number registry
> >   - display any document with purple references
> >   - use a database of URLs and last modified time to
> > invalidate
> >     generated purple numbers, as necessary
> How about the touchgraph purple number email archive
> reader. You answer to nodes by clicking on the
> paragraph and a new response is created with the
> references. At least copied into the clipboard.    (02)

I don't think I quite understand what you mean? Or more
specifically, how does what you say fit into the larger picture?    (03)

What I was speaking of was a CGI tool for displaying any web page,
from anywhere, with purple numbers. The CGI takes a URL as input and
provides the page with purple numbers as output. To make it work
well, it could also rewrite links in the translated page as links
through the CGI. With that, you can live in a purple numbered
universe and have improved document addressibility.    (04)

That's all it does. A prototype would only work with text/plain
and text/html. If the first tool I mentioned was created it could
work with the output it generated as well.    (05)

To make it work, we'd need a list of what things, in what
context, indicate the end of text segment that can be numbered.    (06)

In text/plain that appears to be an end of line followed by a blank
line, based on how Eugene has done purple for the mail archives.
<http://www.eekim.com/software/purple/index.html>    (07)

In HTML I would guess that it is any closing tag, or any place
that a closing tag ought to be, associated with structuring text.
Presumably something like Tidy <http://tidy.sourceforge.net/>
would be handy in that context.    (08)

That corresponds with what Eugene has said in his discussion of
adding purple to websites:    (09)

  Case Study: Adding Purple Numbers to Web Sites    (010)

In there a tool called xhtml_purple is mentioned:    (011)

  http://www.eekim.com/cgi-bin/dkr?fn=/ohs/purplecasestudy.html#sid053    (012)

Eugene, is that code available? If not, can it be? Is it built
into your dkr CGI? Can dkr be adjusted to be this tool I'm
talking about?    (013)

Murray, the references I have to plink are at doctypes.org and
that domain is dead. Is there another location?    (014)

I'm fairly certain much of this, including the question of how to
mark purple numbers, was probably discussed before. Does anyone
have some references beyond what I've already mentioned?    (015)

Also, I'm very much taking the attitude that started is better
than perfect and not started. I realize these suggestions are far
from ideal.    (016)

Who is in a position to put a search engine on the mail archives?    (017)

Chris Dent  <cdent@burningchrome.com>  http://www.burningchrome.com/~cdent/
"Mediocrities everywhere--now and to come--I absolve you all! Amen!"
 -Salieri, in Peter Shaffer's Amadeus    (018)