RE: Another such tool: Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Mind mapping tool
No price; it is currently available under a free trial or free research
agreement structure with Verizon (see
http://www.compendiuminstitute.org/tools/mifflin.htm). We are working to
release it as open source (at present new agreements are mostly on hold
until we get this resolved). (01)
"Garold (Gary) L. Johnson" <dynalt@dynalt.com>@bootstrap.org on 10/29/2002
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The web site tells you everything except how much it costs and how to get
it. Any time I see this sort of thing, I assume that it is going to cost a
*lot* more than I am willing to pay. Plus, it annoys me not to be able to
get some idea of price. (07)
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Garold (Gary) L. Johnson (09)
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In addition to the tools Danny mentions, Compendium
(www.compendiuminstitute.org) has all the desired characteristics -- XML,
RDF, and Jabber-friendly, represents nodes in multiple views (in fact it
takes that quite far), etc. (011)
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"Danny Ayers" <danny666@virgilio.it>@bootstrap.org on 10/29/2002 05:14:05
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>Thanks. I read about something called "Grokker" last
>night, too. Any word on that?
>
>Alex Shapiro wrote:
>
>> Here is some more info about Groxis
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/27/technology/27SOFT.html
>> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/27/192225.shtml?tid=95
>>
>> So far I haven't found any info to impress me. It seems that all they
do
>> it take cluster suggestions such as those returned by www.vivismo.com
and
>> form a hierarchical map out of them. The problem with hierarchical
views
>> is that they don't give you a sense of how an item could fall
>into multiple
>> categories. This same data could have been rendered using Inxight's
star
>> tree. (018)
Or for that matter with TouchGraph (as Alex modestly neglects to mention)
:
http://www.touchgraph.com/ (019)
I agree with Alex's point about the limitations of hierachical views, and
it's a common drawback to virtually all the 'mindmapper' type tools,
whatever their subject matter. For such tools to become *really* useful, in
my opinion they will need to have at least two fundamental characteristics
:
a (node & arc) graph based model; a globally interoperable data format.
There appear to be two major alternatives available for the model/format -
XML Topic Maps (XTM) and Resource Description Framework (RDF). (I'm
currently working on a tool of this type primarily using the latter). (020)
I'm sure that this has already been noted, but just for the record there's
also the CMapTools tool :
http://cmap.coginst.uwf.edu/
which is already in very widespread use in schools etc, and from what I
gather has until recently been using a proprietary format for data
interchange, but will in the near future use XTM. (021)
Cheers,
Danny. (022)
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