From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 1 03:46:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 3BF1756F78; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 03:46:06 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F1656F77 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 03:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.165.144]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011201115920.CFHS17034.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 06:59:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3C08C6CD.F7EFED1D@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 07:02:21 -0500 From: Henry K van Eyken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Question about backing up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Thanks Pat, Eugene I'll try these. On first attemt I received Pat's as a textfule on Win98/Netscape4.77. But I have other browsers and OSs, so I'll paly with it for awhile. What with more and more people having CD writers, fileup might be a marketable shareware product, especially if it also ferrets out also latest emails, etc. Operating mode for plain folk: Burn a CD with what one has, then use CD R-W for updates. All good intentions notwithstanding, I am still haven't shifted Fleabyte work to Linux. Windows is a real trap. Henry From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 1 11:54:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id E0EDD56F79; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:54:24 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail2.cwo.com [209.210.78.33]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4F856F78 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 ([209.63.33.62]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB1K7exK019935 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:07:41 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011201120147.023fdd20@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 12:05:40 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org http://www.lri.fr/~fedak/XtremWeb/introduction.php3 Open source grid computing. I mention this here because I am possessed with notions of finding a way to index, ontologize, and yadayadayada..the entire Web, at least those portions of interest to me and to others who want to play in the same sandbox. Yup. I know the drill..."Can't be done." "Not worth the effort." "Get a life!" and so forth. So what! Imagine a way to share cpu cycles from idle machines all over the world, doing keyword searches, then using greenstone to mirror, index, and ontologize the sites found. Go figure... Jack From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 1 12:39:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id B578856F79; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:39:49 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail2.cwo.com [209.210.78.33]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B34D56F78 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st135.cwo.com [208.186.39.145]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB1Kr5xK024957 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:53:06 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011201125000.023fa960@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 12:51:00 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Environmental Dynamics Consortium -- an OHS Use Case Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org http://www.utad.pt/~tasso/edc/home.html The EDC is an inter-disciplinary group of researchers, practitioners and institutions, all sharing their interest in environmental issues as well as their enthusiasm and experience on how to resolve them. The scientific orientation of the EDC members may be environmental (e.g. EIA/ SEA), planning (e.g. strategic planning), management (e.g. environmental management), or technological (e.g. software development). The field that brings together all these professionals has been termed "Environmental Dynamics". Environmental Dynamics, then, is an inter-disciplinary field of study, conceived and coined at and for the EDC, concerned with the dynamics of environmental systems (alias: "the way things work"). The objective of ED is to investigate, comprehend, document and communicate the complex dynamics of large-scale systems (e.g. local or regional) that include parts of Nature and, many times, human activities. The means to achieve that objective are computer-assisted systems modelling, great components of which are System Dynamics and Geographic Information Systems. In practical terms, the EDC aims to produce concrete outcomes, such as a series of conferences with the latest environmental software and the creation of specialised software for certain processes or individual tasks. Additionally, the EDC may also function as a contact list or a "Who-is-Who" directory, or as a medium for the exchange of experience and ideas. From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sun Dec 2 10:04:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 84AE256F79; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:04:54 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9007556F78 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-17.bellsprout.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.37.17] helo=vaio) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16AbBp-00040i-00 for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:18:10 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c17b5d$ac4eb9a0$112587d9@vaio> From: "Peter Jones" To: References: <4.2.2.20011201120147.023fdd20@thinkalong.com> Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:15:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org In the book, Information Retrieval by Ricardo Baeza-Yates and Berthier Ribiero-Neto there is mention of a system called Harvest that uses a distributed indexing approach to the Web. I haven't searched for any more info yet though. Cheers, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Park" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing > http://www.lri.fr/~fedak/XtremWeb/introduction.php3 > > Open source grid computing. > > I mention this here because I am possessed with notions of finding a way to > index, ontologize, and yadayadayada..the entire Web, at least those > portions of interest to me and to others who want to play in the same sandbox. > > Yup. I know the drill..."Can't be done." "Not worth the effort." "Get a > life!" and so forth. > > So what! > > Imagine a way to share cpu cycles from idle machines all over the world, > doing keyword searches, then using greenstone to mirror, index, and > ontologize the sites found. > > Go figure... > Jack > > From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sun Dec 2 10:20:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 778A856F79; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:20:17 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC5D56F78 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-17.bellsprout.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.37.17] helo=vaio) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16AbQf-0000wV-00 for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:33:33 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c17b5f$d0687220$112587d9@vaio> From: "Peter Jones" To: References: <4.2.2.20011201120147.023fdd20@thinkalong.com> <002101c17b5d$ac4eb9a0$112587d9@vaio> Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:33:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Got it. http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/IT94/Proceedings/Searching/schwartz.harvest /schwartz.harvest.html "Harvest addresses these problems through a set of customizable tools for gathering information from diverse repositories, building topic-specific content indexes, flexibly searching the indexes, widely replicating them, and caching objects as they are retrieved across the Internet. The system interoperates with Mosaic and with HTTP, FTP, WAIS, and Gopher information resources. Harvest permits flexible construction of information services that use both the network and information servers efficiently. It can be configured to automatically collect and summarize related objects from around the Internet into a large collection or to collect, summarize, and hand annotate a tiny, specialized collection. Harvest automates many of the tasks needed to integrate information from disparate repositories and formats. Harvest's architecture makes efficient use of Internet servers and network links, and our measurements indicate that Harvest can reduce server load, network traffic, and index space requirements by one to two orders of magnitude, compared with previous systems. " Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jones" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing > In the book, Information Retrieval by Ricardo Baeza-Yates and Berthier > Ribiero-Neto there is mention of a system called Harvest that uses a > distributed indexing approach to the Web. > I haven't searched for any more info yet though. > > Cheers, > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Park" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:05 PM > Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] ExtremWeb -- p2p grid computing > > > > http://www.lri.fr/~fedak/XtremWeb/introduction.php3 > > > > Open source grid computing. > > > > I mention this here because I am possessed with notions of finding a way > to > > index, ontologize, and yadayadayada..the entire Web, at least those > > portions of interest to me and to others who want to play in the same > sandbox. > > > > Yup. I know the drill..."Can't be done." "Not worth the effort." "Get a > > life!" and so forth. > > > > So what! > > > > Imagine a way to share cpu cycles from idle machines all over the world, > > doing keyword searches, then using greenstone to mirror, index, and > > ontologize the sites found. > > > > Go figure... > > Jack > > > > > > From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 3 16:07:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 4633156F77; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:07:41 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9481656F72 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08710 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fB40Kx728048 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:20:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C0C16EA.C2E62EF5@sun.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:20:58 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Question about backing up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org One of the projects I plan to work on next year is a directory-sync utility. FTPvoyager has an absolutely spot-on interface, but it only works over an FTP connection! Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Henry K van Eyken wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a utility that will scan one's harddisk for files > > with a certain date or later and place copies of these in a single > > directory (from which one can create a CD-update to previously backed-up > > files)? For Windows; for Linux. > > On UNIX, to create a backup archive called backup.tar: > > tar cvf backup.tar `find sourcedir -mtime -n -print` > > where sourcedir is the directory you want to back up and n is the number > of days ago the files were last modified. So, for example, to back up all > of the files in /usr/local/httpd that were modified in the past week: > > tar cvf backup.tar `find /usr/local/httpd -mtime -7 -print` > > Ah, UNIX. :-) > > -Eugene > > -- > +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ > | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | > +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 3 16:14:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id E7ADD56F77; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:14:45 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DA956F72 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05726 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:27:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fB40S3729161 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:28:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C0C1892.FADECA9B@sun.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:28:03 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] (offtopic) Question about backing up References: <20011130132803.6A43B56F72@bi0.bootstrap.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Excellent!! I'm sure I can canibalize the code for a leg up, and will only need to beef up the interface. What are the other utilities you use?? blincoln wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:06:02 -0500, Henry K van Eyken wrote: > > >Does anyone know of a utility that will scan one's harddisk for files > >with a certain date or later and place copies of these in a single > >directory (from which one can create a CD-update to previously backed-up > >files)? For Windows; for Linux. > > I wrote a utility similar to this in java as a way to learn java, several years > ago. Its rough, but we still use it in 'production' environments. > It may not be what you're looking for, since it runs only as a GUI app. > > The design is intended for us for uploading files to remote sites and > doesn't copy files, but instead zips them into a single zip file in a specified > location. I'm happy to share the source if you are a java programmer and > want to modify it. It has a few curious bugs I've not tracked down > since there are only 3 users for this utility and we know how to work > around them :) > > But, it might serve for what you're trying to do. > > The utility is called FileUp (as in file-upload). If you don't find > something better suited, take a look at FileUp and let me know what > features you need to make it useful and I can try to get time to do > another revision and track down those bugs. One option would be > to require the gui for the setup but be able to force it to run and > complete without any interactivity, based on the config file. The > other feature you may need is the ability to specify multiple seach > paths, its currently setup to only search down one tree. > > We don't use FileUp as much anymore since there are other utilities now > available, but I still use it as the way I make incremental backups. > > The jar I currently use is accessible at: > > http://www.erowid.org/general/software/fileup/ > > There are also a couple of images of the interface there. The > concept is that you setup a starting directory, specify a date and > potentially include and exclude criteria, and then it searches the > filesystem for files later than the specified date matching the > include/exclude criteria. All of those it puts in a list which you can > sort and remove entries from, then you say 'zip', it makes a zip file > of them, then you can click 'upload' and it tries to ftp them to the > remote site specified for that configuration. > > I think that should include the class kitchen sink, so any of the java's from > 1.2.x on should (*cough*) run that. Irritatingly, most browsers seem > to try to download .jar files as text, so you'll need to make sure you > get it as a binary. > > It needs a complete rewrite, in fact I will be horridly embarassed to > show the source code for this since it was my very first java outting, > but... > > bcl From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 3 16:51:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id C246856F77; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:51:06 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F3456F72 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-201-92-45.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.201.92.45]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GNS009LVOB9E3@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:04:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 15:58:41 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Eric Kim Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Question about backing up In-reply-to: <3C0C16EA.C2E62EF5@sun.com> X-X-Sender: To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Eric Armstrong wrote: > One of the projects I plan to work on next year is a > directory-sync utility. FTPvoyager has an absolutely > spot-on interface, but it only works over an FTP > connection! Once again, gotta love UNIX: http://rsync.samba.org/ -Eugene -- +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 3 17:40:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id DFEC756F77; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:40:49 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7F56F72 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08457 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fB41s1710683 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:54:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C0C2CB9.1F2E1771@sun.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:54:01 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Question about backing up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Actually, now that Mac OS/X promises to give the best of both worlds -- good gui, lots of multimedia, and a Linux shell underneath, so you can go GUI or batch, at will. (If only they could stay in step with the latest Java releases...) Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Eric Armstrong wrote: > > > One of the projects I plan to work on next year is a > > directory-sync utility. FTPvoyager has an absolutely > > spot-on interface, but it only works over an FTP > > connection! > > Once again, gotta love UNIX: > > http://rsync.samba.org/ > > -Eugene > > -- > +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ > | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | > +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 3 19:27:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id E7D6756F77; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:27:44 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F22656F72 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3331 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2001 03:41:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fungus) ([64.81.49.77]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2001 03:41:27 -0000 From: "blincoln" To: "ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org" Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:43:09 -0800 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Question about backing up Message-Id: <20011204032743.8F22656F72@bi0.bootstrap.org> Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Eugene wrote: > http://rsync.samba.org/ Well, these all serve different needs. There are other pieces of software that use FTP to do tree comparisons and can work quite well. When i wrote FileUp the need which was not yet filled by any other tool (and I still don't know of anything that does this, which is a rather simple operation) is that I need to be able to check my local directory system -only-. The other end is a blackbox, I can't install (non-web) software on it, the connection is far too slow to do ftp file-by-file comparison, etc. When we were doing a lot of small-job contracting, there were dozens of customers who had systems onto which we had only the barest minimum of access and often we were running over a modem from a laptop or the server we were accessing was doing 1 second pings. It was hours and hours to try to run ftp-syncing for thousand-file installations. For one project, there were over 10,000 files (a large heterogenous database thing). Most of these files never changed, but there weren't super easy rules for which file types could be excluded and none of the tools allowed for any regular expression include/exclude or anything so robust. Doing a remote server comparison was completely impossible. More simply, doing local file lists (in windows) by date can work, but no tool that we found was able to store the last timestamp when the tool was run and maintain the directory structure. We spent quite a lot of time looking for something that did this and were really surprised when we couldn't find anything. However, its easy to not find things in this world. What FileUp is designed to do is to just keep track of the files local to it. It saves the last time you ran that configuration, so the next time you start it up, it knows to check since that last time, it gives you the list which you can hand-check (another key feature my 2 users needed), makes a zip, and ftp's it all from a single interface. In terms of doing really intelligent version management, backups, or synching file systems, this is not the tool. FileUp has a fairly narrow set of needs that it was designed for. But for those needs, it is the only tool that I know of. One question I have is, if you have the ability to setup rsync, why not just use cvs? bcl From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 4 07:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id DFC9F56F7A; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:08:39 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628C656F78 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.170.106]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011204152143.CWGP11528.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0CEAC3.C478392C@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 10:24:51 -0500 From: Henry K van Eyken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] A keyboard that strikes a chord Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Ref. http://www.fleabyte.org , third article, "A keyboard that strikes a chord," wouldn't that make an interesting experiment? Compare with devices found on page http://www.tt-tec.com/html/Products/Product.htm I wrote the company, drawing their attention to this item. One'll never know ... Henry From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 5 12:39:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id B62B556F77; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:39:10 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34E156F72 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-106.bulbasaur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.47.106] helo=vaio) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16BjUm-0002cT-00 for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: <006401c17dce$b8cf1a80$6a2f87d9@vaio> From: "Peter Jones" To: References: <20011204032743.8F22656F72@bi0.bootstrap.org> Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Hyperlinking Prior Art Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:52:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org This one has done the rounds before: (taken from the findlaw.com newsletter) BT, PRODIGY U.S. HYPERLINK PATENT TRIAL DATE SET A court date was set Monday in the lawsuit brought by British Telecommunications PLC (BT) against U.S.-based Prodigy Communications Corp. for patent infringement through the ISP's (Internet service provider) unauthorized use of the hyperlink. Last year, BT said it had discovered that it holds U.S. patent 4,873,662 for the invention of hyperlink technology used on the Internet, and on Dec. 13, 2000, the London-based telecommunication company filed suit in federal court in White Plains, New York. Source: IDG News Service http://www.idg.net/crd_idgsearch_732742.html At the bottom of that page is a link to the patent document. #4,873,662 , October 10, 1989 It was filed with the UK Post Office in 1976, and in the US in 1980. Excerpt: "BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION "This invention relates to an information handling system in which information is derived from a computer at a remote point and transmitted via the public telephone network to terminal apparatus. The invention also includes the terminal apparatus itself. "It has been proposed to provide for domestic and/or business consumers a simplified form of computer terminal by means of which information stored in a computer can be obtained from it via the public telephone network. The form of the terminal is different from a conventional computer terminal, both in the simplicity of its operation and in the form of its display. The display is of the form of a page of data and is reproduced on a cathode-ray tube screen which may be part of a domestic television receiver or may be a special purpose apparatus for this function. Instead of a cathode-ray tube screen, a special purpose alphanumeric display may be used. Initially the data is displayed on the screen in the form of a sequence of progressively more detailed indices by means of which an operator is enabled to key-in to a key pad provided for the terminal numbers identifying a particular page of information which he requires. Since the system is to be operated by unskilled operators it is important that the key required be of self-evident nature and inevitably this will restrict the nature of facilities which the computer can provide. One such system is known by the name VIEWDATA, and in which the information provided by the computer is identified by a page number and when this page is keyed the whole of the data contained in that page is transmitted in coded form to the terminal where it is stored and displayed continnously, until the next page is received or the terminal switched off. "Difficulties arise in such a system, however, because of the need to ensure the simplicity of operation of the terminal, bearing in mind the likelihood that the significance of particular keying inputs may need to be varied in dependence on the data being displayed. "It is an object of the present invention to alleviate the above difficulty. "According to one aspect of the present invention there is provided an information handling system in which information is transmitted to a terminal apparatus from a computer via a telephone line, the information being transmitted to the terminal apparatus in packets, each of which is displayed by the terminal apparatus as a page consisting of a plurality of parallel lines of alphanumeric characters and/or graphical data, the terminal apparatus including means for transmitting signals to the computer via the telephone line indicating which packet or packets of information are to be transmitted by the computer, wherein information is stored by the computer in blocks each of which contains a first part consisting of the packet of information in the form of coded groups of digits representing the characters or graphical data forming the page to be displayed and a second part containing in coded form details relating to the page of information which are not displayed, means being provided for storing the second part of a block when the first part is transmitted to the terminal apparatus. "The details relating to the page of information may be retained in the computer, for example, in a special register provided for the purpose, so that inputs from the terminal apparatus can be used to select items from among the details as information or instruction data for the computer. If the system forms part of a public telephone network, it is necessary to provide a way of charging a subscriber's account for the block or blocks of information transmitted to his terminal equipment. It is envisaged that certain information may be provided at very low cost or possibly free, whereas other information such as, for example, latest stock market prices may be relatively expensive. In such a system the second part of a block may include an indication of the charging rate for information supplied in the first part, so that the computer and/or the terminal can be arranged to record the cost of the information extracted to be charged against the subscriber's account. "The second part of a block may include software, that is programming information, for simplifying entries to be made by an operator on the basis of the information displayed to him by the terminal apparatus. For example, the page of information displayed may be an index or part of an index, and to simplify keying each item of the index displayed may be indicated by a single digit. When the digit against a desired item is keyed it may be used to select full addressing information from the second part of the block, which full information is transmitted to the computer to enable the selection of the desired item. The second parts of the blocks of information may alternatively be transmitted to the terminal apparatus and stored in a special register there. "According to a second aspect of the invention there is provided a terminal apparatus for an information handling system in which information is transmitted from a computer to the terminal apparatus via a telephone line, the information being transmitted to the terminal apparatus in blocks each of which is displayable by the terminal apparatus as a page consisting of a plurality of lines of alphanumeric characters and/or graphical data, the apparatus including means for receiving blocks of information signals from a telephone line, storage means for storing a block of information signals, means for repeatedly reading at least part of the storage means, means for converting signals repeatedly read from the storage means into video signals, means for producing a prolonged visible display in response to the video signals, and means for transmitting signals to a telephone line indicating to a computer which block or blocks of information are to be transmitted, wherein the storage means has a first part for storing coded groups of digits representing alphanumeric characters or graphical data forming the page of information to be displayed, and a second part for storing the remainder of the block of information representing details relating to the page of information to be displayed. "The terminal apparatus may include data entry means, such as a manual keyboard, and means responsive to information stored in the second part of the storage means for modifying signals from the data entry means before they are applied to the transmitting means. Alternatively or additionally signals read from the second part of the storage means may be selectively, in response to the data entry means, transmitted to the telephone line for addressing other blocks of information stored in the computer." It would seem that the crucial term is 'telephone line'. Any tech historians think this is a wonky patent? Cheers, Peter From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Fri Dec 7 15:45:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id E4A2A56F7A; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:45:12 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC66656F78 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-201-88-239.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.201.88.239]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GNZ00EZUZXKC1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:58:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:52:31 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Eric Kim Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] NET Guard proposal X-X-Sender: To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Computerworld had an interesting article about the IT response to the September 11 attacks: http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO66326,00.html An excerpt: In the hours and days following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack in New York, volunteers -- both individuals and corporations -- stepped in with technology, services and sheer brainpower to lend any help they could. But the effort lacked coordination. ... U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), who is chairman of the subcommittee, has proposed creating a National Emergency Technology Guard, or NET Guard -- a "talent bank" or technology equivalent of the National Guard filled with experts who could quickly provide help when needed. People would be called on "not just to fix what's broken, but to create whatever systems are needed most," he said. InformationWeek also has an article about the NET Guard proposal: http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20011205S0010 -Eugene -- +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 8 01:20:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 8288A56F7A; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 01:20:27 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55C56F78 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 01:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from attbi.com ([12.234.20.7]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011208093342.TLGE5859.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:33:42 +0000 Message-ID: <3C11DF52.872C975E@attbi.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 01:37:23 -0800 From: Sheldon Brahms Organization: Synesthetics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Kibosh Kontinues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Ok, Eric, We're back online and I actually found that excerpt on Redcaps from the folklore encyclopaedia, so here it is. Read it before a meal if at all possible. Enjoy, ---Sheldon =============================================================== REDCAP (RED-cap) Hideous and vile, redcaps are the stuff of nightmares. They are feared even among the Kithain for their vulgar and disgusting ways. These changelings seem to revel in others' terror; it is said that nightmares gave them form, and many bards believe it. Redcaps delight in taunting, insulting and just plain abusing mortals and fae alike, knowing that others fear them too much to punish their deeds. Originally known for their bloodstained wool caps, these changelings are the infamous servants of the Unseelie Court. At one time, a horde of redcaps known as the Host terrorized the countryside at night, particularly on All Hallow's Eve. Fortunately, most redcaps have abandoned the grisly habit of dyeing their hoods in human blood, though some are said to continue this practice. Unlike trolls, redcaps intimidate people not with physical strength, but with sheer bad attitude. Their tempers are violent and their manners atrocious. Though few redcaps are outright stupid, fewer still are clever. They hold all authority in contempt unless said authority beats their brains in or flatters them. Even the best of them fight dirty; the worst are murderous thugs. There may be some redeeming quality to these kith, but most changelings never bother to look. Redcaps' determination may be their saving grace. Songs tell of redcaps slaying dragons and other threats to the fae. They are prized as bodyguards by masters who can earn their respect and tolerate their antics. Such masteres are advised to keep healers and custodians close. Redcaps' appetites often rival their ferocity; they are renowned for their eating prowess and often indulge in gorging contests that would make a shark vomit. Fae lore calls them "bulldogs" and states that a redcap's will is as strong as his bite. Those actually bitten by redcaps shudder at the thought.... In bygone days these faeries bit the fingers from their victims and wore the bones for belts. Some Unseelie still practice this horror, and compound it by leaving the victims alive to boot. Sidhe knights consider killing redcaps and honor and a duty; this makes life difficult for those few who follow the Seelie Court insted of the dark one. Seelie redcaps do their best to contain their innate bloodlust and channel it toward nobler ends -- like battling their own Unseelie kind. Appearance: Redcaps tend toward stocky builds, with grayish, mottled skin and thick bandy legs. Even Seelie redcaps have horrid bloodshot eyes, skeletal noses and rubbery wrinkled faces. Worst of all are their ghoulish mouths, filled with yellowed, crooked, flat teeth used for grinding their prey to a pulp. From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 8 06:04:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id D852756F7A; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:04:19 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1D556F78 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.165.104]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011208141741.FKAB20714.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1221CA.DE8CB50F@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:20:58 -0500 From: Henry K van Eyken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Kibosh Kontinues References: <3C11DF52.872C975E@attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Linking up? I understand the story of Little Red Riding Hood to have a foundation in solar eclipses. And isn't the moon greyish, with a mottled skin? What color effects accompany solar eclipses? &c. Henry Sheldon Brahms wrote: > Ok, Eric, > > We're back ... > > Redcaps tend toward stocky builds, with grayish, mottled > skin > and thick bandy > legs. Even Seelie redcaps have horrid bloodshot eyes, > skeletal > noses and > rubbery wrinkled faces. Worst of all are their ghoulish > mouths, > filled with > yellowed, crooked, flat teeth used for grinding their prey to > a > pulp. From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 8 09:41:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 5B0EA56F7A; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:41:16 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC5C56F78 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from home ([63.197.14.24]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GO10032ZDR49X@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:54:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:52:40 -0800 From: John Maloney Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] KM Cluster Winter Bulletin To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Greetings ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org -- This Bay Area community of practice should be of interest to members of ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org. == This bulletin is from the San Francisco Bay Area and Silicon Valley Knowledge Management (KM) Cluster, http://kmcluster.com. The Winter KM Cluster Event will be held on Friday, December 14, 2001 in Palo Alto, California. Agenda Additions **************** Hewlett-Packard's Enterprise Workforce Development organization will describe how they use business simulation. This will be paired with a description and demo of business simulation software from BTS, Inc. http://www.bts.com. The KM Cluster is pleased to be offering an in-depth, hands-on workshop on business simulation techniques using the powerful iThink 7.0 software from High Performance Systems http://www.hps-inc.com. You will learn the latest techniques to enhance systems thinking, collaborative behaviors and effective knowledge management. Please visit the agenda at: http://www.kmcluster.com/Winter_2002_Agenda.htm News **** Some of the smartest companies in the world are investing in simulation to advance their business objectives and improve operating performance. Visit http://kmcluster.com to learn of a new placement by Accenture. 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From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 11 11:41:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id B985F56F7A; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:41:03 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail2.cwo.com [209.210.78.33]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814A956F78 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st10.cwo.com [208.186.39.20]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBBJsBOd028937 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:54:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011211115007.0232d6d0@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:51:15 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] DREAM -- evolutionary programming Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org http://dr-ea-m.sourceforge.net "This project seeks to provide the technology and software infrastructure necessary to support the next generation of evolving infohabitants in a way that makes that infrastructure universal, open and scalable. The Distributed Resource Evolutionary Algorithm Machine (DREAM) will use existing hardware infrastructure in a much more efficient manner, by utilising otherwise unused CPU time. It will allow infohabitants to co-operate, communicate, negotiate and trade; and emergent behaviour is expected to result. It is expected that there will be an emergent economy that results from the provision and use of CPU cycles by infohabitants and their owners. The DREAM infrastructure will be evaluated with new work on distributed data mining, distributed scheduling and the modelling of economic and social behaviour. " LGPL Java From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 12 12:30:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 150CB56F7B; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:30:41 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D913A56F78 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-201-89-118.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.201.89.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GO90013809LZ9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:44:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Eric Kim Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] the myth of the paperless office X-X-Sender: To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org This notice, "The news about paper," from the BBC News Online, talks about a commonly noted phenomenon -- the fact that computers seem to have increased, not decreased, the use of paper: http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1666000/1666325.stm The conclusions of Abigail Sellen and Richard Harper, who just published the book, _The Myth of the Paperless Office_, was summarized as follows: "The UK researchers conclude that the main reason paper remains popular is because technology has produced nothing that can match it in terms of usability and familiarity." Doug and Ted Nelson have made this observation over and over and over again. There are some things about paper upon which technology may not be able to improve. However, there are many areas where digital technology should be inherently better than paper. So why haven't people implemented these systems? -Eugene -- +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 12 13:19:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 8572E56F7A; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:19:42 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C45756F78 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14414 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:32:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fBCLWp715442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:32:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C17CD03.61A1EA3D@sun.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:32:51 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] the myth of the paperless office References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > This notice, "The news about paper," from the BBC News Online, talks about > a commonly noted phenomenon -- the fact that computers seem to have > increased, not decreased, the use of paper: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1666000/1666325.stm > > The conclusions of Abigail Sellen and Richard Harper, who just published > the book, _The Myth of the Paperless Office_, was summarized as follows: > > "The UK researchers conclude that the main reason paper remains popular > is because technology has produced nothing that can match it in terms of > usability and familiarity." I disagree (only slightly) with assesment. Paper remains popular because nothing can match it terms of usability and usability. Electronic versions make searching easy. But we've all noted that word searches, as opposed to topic searches, create may false matches. At the same time, it is very difficult to search every file in your system. That's one reason I prefer keeping most everything in email folders -- so I can find it again later, no matter what hare-brained scheme I used when I originally stored. (It must have been hare-brained, because I certainly can't find it *now*. > There are some things about paper upon which technology may not be able to > improve. However, there are many areas where digital technology should be > inherently better than paper. So why haven't people implemented these > systems? So digital technology has not quite lived up to its inherent promise of searchability. That's one reason that such systems have not replaced paper systems. On the other hand, their maleability makes them *dynamite* for authoring. I'm not even sure that typewriters even *exist* any more. Haven't seen them in a decade or so. So digital systems have all but completely replaced paper as an authoring mechanism. But I still find it indispensible for reviewing. Reasons: a) Portablity b) Density c) Notability A printed document goes with me anywhere, to the beach or the mountains or anywhere in between. It also has a very high density, so I can see a lot more information at one time than I can on a screen. If need be, I can spread out several pages and compare them. Until I have a screen the size of a whiteboard, there is no hope of duplicating that feat on a computer. Finally, I can jot down notes in the margins, no matter how the document was originally authored. When digital systems can achieve the same level of portability, information and graphic density, and notation-ability as paper systems, then they have a hope of replacing paper for reading, as well as authoring. However, I'm not totally sure that would be a good thing. I see the day when all the world's information is on computers, and that massive solar flare hits that wipes them out. We could rebuild civilization in 100 years, with the information in our libraries. But if those were gone, it would take us millennia. From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Fri Dec 14 10:18:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 8087356F79; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:18:03 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B29F56F78 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-143.chansey.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.64.143] helo=vaio) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16Ex7G-0002bA-00 for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:31:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c184cd$80db43a0$8f4087d9@vaio> From: "Peter Jones" To: References: <3C17CD03.61A1EA3D@sun.com> Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] solar flare wipeout WAS: the myth of the paperless office Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:31:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Eric Armstrong wrote: > However, I'm not totally sure that would be a good thing. I see the day when > all the world's information is on computers, and that massive solar flare hits > that wipes them out. We could rebuild civilization in 100 years, with the > information in our libraries. But if those were gone, it would take us > millennia. I believe some researchers are working on storage mechanisms that use binary-state structured crystal molecules that can be switched back and forth with lasers. I'm sure I read something like that in Scientific American a year or two ago. So storage is non-magnetic. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Armstrong" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] the myth of the paperless office > Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > > > This notice, "The news about paper," from the BBC News Online, talks about > > a commonly noted phenomenon -- the fact that computers seem to have > > increased, not decreased, the use of paper: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1666000/1666325.stm > > > > The conclusions of Abigail Sellen and Richard Harper, who just published > > the book, _The Myth of the Paperless Office_, was summarized as follows: > > > > "The UK researchers conclude that the main reason paper remains popular > > is because technology has produced nothing that can match it in terms of > > usability and familiarity." > > I disagree (only slightly) with assesment. Paper remains popular because > nothing > can match it terms of usability and usability. Electronic versions make > searching > easy. But we've all noted that word searches, as opposed to topic searches, > create may false matches. At the same time, it is very difficult to search > every > file in your system. That's one reason I prefer keeping most everything in > email > folders -- so I can find it again later, no matter what hare-brained scheme I > used > when I originally stored. (It must have been hare-brained, because I certainly > can't find it *now*. > > > There are some things about paper upon which technology may not be able to > > improve. However, there are many areas where digital technology should be > > inherently better than paper. So why haven't people implemented these > > systems? > > So digital technology has not quite lived up to its inherent promise of > searchability. > That's one reason that such systems have not replaced paper systems. On the > other hand, their maleability makes them *dynamite* for authoring. I'm not even > > sure that typewriters even *exist* any more. Haven't seen them in a decade or > so. > > So digital systems have all but completely replaced paper as an authoring > mechanism. But I still find it indispensible for reviewing. Reasons: > a) Portablity > b) Density > c) Notability > > A printed document goes with me anywhere, to the beach or the mountains > or anywhere in between. It also has a very high density, so I can see a lot > more information at one time than I can on a screen. If need be, I can spread > out several pages and compare them. Until I have a screen the size of a > whiteboard, there is no hope of duplicating that feat on a computer. Finally, > I can jot down notes in the margins, no matter how the document was originally > authored. > > When digital systems can achieve the same level of portability, information > and graphic density, and notation-ability as paper systems, then they have a > hope of replacing paper for reading, as well as authoring. > > However, I'm not totally sure that would be a good thing. I see the day when > all the world's information is on computers, and that massive solar flare hits > that wipes them out. We could rebuild civilization in 100 years, with the > information in our libraries. But if those were gone, it would take us > millennia. > > > From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Fri Dec 14 15:04:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 9939D56F82; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:04:27 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B0256F7E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04818 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:17:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fBENHu723105 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:17:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C1A88A7.D829F220@sun.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:17:59 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] solar flare wipeout WAS: the myth of the paperless office References: <3C17CD03.61A1EA3D@sun.com> <000f01c184cd$80db43a0$8f4087d9@vaio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Peter Jones wrote: > I believe some researchers are working on storage mechanisms that use > binary-state structured crystal molecules that can be switched back and > forth with lasers. I'm sure I read something like that in Scientific > American a year or two ago. So storage is non-magnetic. Removes one risk. But I'm sure it leaves others. Thinking in terms of low-probability, catastrophic risks I'm a big fan of the redundant information stored in easily-accessible libaries. In fact, I'd like to see libaries that were devoted to nothing but how-to information, for everything from plumbing to surgery. I'd include how to write and how to draw and how to play music, but I'd leave out the great inspiration literature and music and everything else, just to keep the space free for civilization-rebuilding information. As great as all the "great stuff" is, there is a gradual slope from it down to "trash", so it's hard to draw any kind of line. It's kind of like picking a natural boundary in the landscape to draw your boundaries, either for a country or for a battle line. The distinction between "how to" and "other" is sharply enough delinated. to form a sort of "cliff" that makes a natural boundary. From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sun Dec 16 12:09:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 7524156F7C; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:09:01 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (mail8.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.58]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A2D056F78 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2763 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2001 20:22:31 -0000 Received: from 66-42-0-97.oak.dial.netzero.com (HELO netzero.net) (66.42.0.97) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 2001 20:22:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3C1D025F.81895E91@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:21:51 -0800 From: "John J. Deneen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-{C-UDP; EBM-SONY1} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] virtual book club? References: <4.2.2.20011128091659.02335ed0@thinkalong.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Education Technology and The Changing Legal Landscape's Impact on School Policy and Governance By: W. David Watkins See "Technology trends - a touch of futurism" < http://education.arlaw.com/nsba/NSBAEdTech2001.htm > Jack Park wrote: > I have been roaming the web looking for ideas to support work I am doing > that aligns with the Engelbart notion of augmenting the collective IQ. I > view Doug's writing from a particular perspective. Doug has spoken deeply > and often about issues related to current human activities; similarly, I > have taken the view that it is (for me) more important to think about > future activities with respect to those who will be involved, today's young > learners. > > Today's Web research led me to the works of Ivan Illich. Turns out that > two of his books are on-line. I'll make a deep quotation from the > introduction to one of them -- _Tools for Conviviality_ -- which follows a > previous book _Deschooling Society_. > > Tools is found at http://philosophy.la.psu.edu/illich/tools/intro.html > Deschooling is found at http://philosophy.la.psu.edu/illich/deschool/intro.html > > Given that Tools represents his views on technology, and OHS is about > technology, perhaps _Tools for Conviviality_ could be considered for > discussion as a group. It strikes me that the tone of the book (I haven't > read it yet) speaks to many of the issues of design that interest Sheldon > Brahms. Certainly, the fabric of his writing supports notions of > constructivist learning environments, and those environments represent > appropriate use cases for OHS/DKR implementations. > > If you recall, Ping recently introduced himself and gave a URL > http://lfw.org/ping/criticons/ > wherein he illustrates the use of email posts for IBIS-like > discussions. It would not take an archiver to produce what he wants if we > happen to make our Subject lines look something like his suggestion. > > Cheers > Jack > > ******** > During the next several years I intend to work on an epilogue to the > industrial age. I want to trace the changes in language, myth, ritual, and > law which took place in the current epoch of pack-aging and of schooling. I > want to describe the fading monopoly of the industrial mode of production > and the vanishing of the industrially generated professions this mode of > production serves. > Above all I want to show that two-thirds of mankind still can avoid passing > through the industrial age, by choosing right now a postindustrial balance > in their mode of production which the hyperindustrial nations will be > forced to adopt as an alternative to chaos. To prepare for this task I > submit this essay for critical comment. > In its present form this book is the result of conversations at CIDOC in > Cuernavaca during the summer of 1972. Participants in my seminar will > recognize their ideas, and often their words. I ask my collaborators to > accept my sincere thanks, especially for their written contributions. > This essay has become too long to appear as an article and too intricate to > be read in several installments. It is a progress report. I respectfully > thank Ruth Nanda Anshen for issuing this tract as a volume, in World > Perspectives, published by Harper & Row. > For several years at CIDOC in Cuernavaca we have conducted critical > research on the monopoly of the industrial mode of production and have > tried to define conceptually alternative modes that would fit a > postindustrial age. During tine late sixties this research centered on > educational devices. By 1970 we had found that: > 1. Universal education through compulsory schooling is not possible. > 2. Alternative devices for the production and marketing of mass education > are technically more feasible and ethically less tolerable than compulsory > graded schools. Such new educational arrangements are now on the verge of > replacing traditional school systems in rich and in poor countries. They > are potentially more effective in the conditioning of job-holders and > consumers in an industrial economy. They are therefore more attractive for > the management of present societies, more seductive for the people, and > insidiously destructive of fundamental values. > 3. A society committed to high levels of shared learning and critical > personal intercourse must set pedagogical limits on industrial growth. > I have published the results of this research in a previous volume of World > Perspectives, entitled Deschooling Society. I clarified some of the points > left ill defined in that book by writing an article published in the > Saturday Review of April 19, 1971. > Our analysis of schooling has led us to recognize the mass production of > education as a paradigm for other industrial enterprises, each producing a > service commodity, each organized as a public utility, and each defining > its output as a basic necessity. At first our attention was drawn to the > compulsory insurance of professional health care, and to systems of public > transport, which tend to become compulsory once traffic rolls above a > certain speed. We found that the industrialization of any service agency > leads to destructive side effects analogous to the unwanted secondary > results well known from the overproduction of goods. we had to face a set > of limits to growth in the service sector Of any society as inescapable as > the limits inherent in the industrial production of artifacts. we concluded > that a set of limits to industrial growth is well formulated only if these > limits apply both to goods and to services which are produced in an > industrial mode. So we set out to clarify these limits. > I here submit the concept of a multidimensional balance of human life which > can serve as a framework for evaluating man's relation to his tools. In > each of several dimensions of this balance it is possible to identify a > natural scale. When an enterprise grows beyond a certain point on this > scale, it first frustrates the end for > which it was originally designed, and then rapidly becomes a threat to > society itself. These scales must be identified and the > parameters of human endeavors within which human life remains viable must > be explored. > Society can be destroyed when further growth of mass production renders the > milieu hostile, when it extinguishes the free use of the natural abilities > of society's members, when it isolates people from each other and locks > them into a man-made shell, when it undermines the texture of community by > promoting extreme social polarization and splintering specialization, or > when cancerous acceleration enforces social change at a rate that rules out > legal, cultural, and political precedents as formal guidelines to present > behavior. Corporate endeavors which thus threaten society cannot be > tolerated. At this point it becomes irrelevant whether an enterprise is > nominally owned by individuals, corporations, or the slate, because no form > of management can make such fundamental destruction serve a social purpose. > Our present ideologies are useful to clarify the contradictions which > appear in a society which relies on the capitalist control of industrial > production; they do not, however, provide the necessary framework for > analyzing the crisis in the industrial mode of > production itself. I hope that one day a general theory of > industrialization will be stated with precision, that it will be formulated > in terms compelling enough to withstand the test of criticism. Its concepts > ought to provide a common language for people in opposing parties who need > to engage in the assessment of social programs or technologies, and who > want to restrain the power of man's tools when they tend to overwhelm man > and his goals. Such a theory should help people invert the present > structure of major institutions. I hope that this essay will enhance the > formulation of such a theory. > It is now difficult to imagine a modern society in which industrial growth > is balanced and kept in check by several complementary, distinct, and > equally scientific modes of production. Our vision of the possible and the > feasible is so restricted by industrial expectations that any alternative > to more mass production sounds like a return to past oppression or like a > Utopian design for noble savages. In fact, however, the vision of new pos- > sibilities requires only the recognition that scientific discoveries can be > useful in at least two opposite ways. The first leads to specia- lization > of functions, institutionalization of values and centralization of power > and turns people into the accessories of bureaucracies or machines. The > second enlarges the range of each person's competence, control, and > initiative, limited only by other individuals' claims to an equal range of > power and freedom. > To formulate a theory about a future society both very modern and not > dominated by industry, it will be necessary to recognize natural scales and > limits. We must come to admit that only within limits can machines take the > place of slaves; beyond these limits they lead to a new kind of serfdom. > Only within limits can education fit people into a man-made environment: > beyond these limits lies the universal schoolhouse, hospital ward, or > prison. Only within limits ought politics to be concerned with the > distribution of maximum industrial outputs, rather than with equal inputs > of either energy or information. Once these limits are recognized, it > becomes possible to articulate the triadic relationship between persons, > tools, and a new collectivity. Such a society, in which modern technologies > serve politically interrelated individuals rather than managers, I will > call "convivial." > After many doubts, and against the advice of friends whom I respect, I have > chosen "convivial" as a technical term to designate a modern society of > responsibly limited tools. In part this choice was conditioned by the > desire to continue a discourse which had started with its Spanish cognate. > The French cognate has been given technical meaning (for the kitchen) by > Brillat-Savarin in his Physiology of Taste: Meditations on Transcendental > Gastronomy. This specialized use of the term in French might explain why it > has already proven effective in the unmistakably different and equally > specialized context in which it will appear in this essay. I am aware that > in English "convivial" now seeks the company of tipsy jollyness, which is > distinct from that indicated by the OED and opposite to the austere meaning > of modern "eutrapelia," which I intend. By applying the term "convivial" to > tools rather than to people, I hope to forestall confusion. > "Austerity," which says something about people, has also been degraded and > has acquired a bitter taste, while for Aristotle or > Aquinas it marked the foundation of friendship. In the Summa Theologica, > II, II, in the 186th question, article 5, Thomas deals with disciplined and > creative playfulness. In his third response he defines "austerity" as a > virtue which does not exclude all enjoyments, but only those which are > distracting from or destructive of personal relatedness. For Thomas > "austerity" is a complementary part of a more embracing virtue, which he > calls friendship or joyfulness. It is the fruit of an apprehension that > things or tools could destroy rather than enhance eutrapelia (or graceful > playfulness) in personal relations.* ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 17 23:44:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id CCEB456F7E; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:44:13 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCFB56F78 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-201-90-86.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.201.90.86]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GOJ00AT54SAFY@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:57:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:51:08 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Eric Kim Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] HTML/PDF of Illich (w/ purple numbers) X-X-Sender: To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Garold Johnson cleaned up the HTML from the Penn State version of Illich's Tools for Conviviality. I took Garold's work, munged it into Purple, and generated an HTML and PDF version with purple numbers: http://www.eekim.com/ba/bookclub/illich/ The PDF version is suitable for printing. For those of you who have already read the book, please post your thoughts! Better yet, use the purple numbers when you do. -Eugene -- +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 18 06:48:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 0B21956F84; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:48:09 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail2.cwo.com [209.210.78.33]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A898756F78 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st17.cwo.com [208.186.39.27]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBIF1fOd003544 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:01:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011218065509.023764a0@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:56:41 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] HTML/PDF of Illich (w/ purple numbers) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org At 10:51 PM 12/17/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Garold Johnson cleaned up the HTML from the Penn State version of Illich's >Tools for Conviviality. I took Garold's work, munged it into Purple, and >generated an HTML and PDF version with purple numbers: > > http://www.eekim.com/ba/bookclub/illich/ > >The PDF version is suitable for printing. > >For those of you who have already read the book, please post your >thoughts! Better yet, use the purple numbers when you do. > >-Eugene The html version would be perfect for posting at D3E. Is it time to put D3E up at the Bootstrap site? Jack From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 18 06:57:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 90ECA56F84; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:57:25 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail1.cwo.com [209.210.78.50]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FB656F78 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st17.cwo.com [208.186.39.27]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBIFAt5R021626 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:10:56 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011218070415.02365760@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:05:12 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Fwd: The MS DRM Patent and Freedom to Speak and Think Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Forwarded with only one comment from me: this topic requires further discussion. Jack >X-Sender: fheyligh@pop.vub.ac.be >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:52:41 +0100 >To: gbrain@listserv.vub.ac.be (Global Brain Discussion) >From: Francis Heylighen >Subject: Fwd: The MS DRM Patent and Freedom to Speak and Think >Sender: owner-gbrain@listserv.vub.ac.be >Reply-To: gbrain@listserv.vub.ac.be > >>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:08:13 -0500 >>From: Seth Johnson >>Organization: Real Measures >>X-Accept-Language: en >>To: >>Subject: The MS DRM Patent and Freedom to Speak and Think >>X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: PCP@vub.ac.be >>X-Return-Path: seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org >>Sender: seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org >>X-MDMailing-List: C-FIT_Distro@realmeasures.dyndns.org >>X-MDSend-Notifications-To: seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org >>Reply-To: seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org >>Status: RO >> >> >>In his November 6 essay "You're Free to Think," >>(http://davenet.userland.com/2001/11/06/youreFreeToThink), >>Dave Winer comments that whatever else happens in the >>ongoing, increasing trend towards policing of the public's >>right to use information and information technology, we are >>still left with the freedom to *think* for ourselves. He >>seemed to me to be offering this comment as a bare source of >>solace against the government's increasing intent to control >>the prospects of communications technology. >> >>Microsoft's favorable treatment of late caused him to wonder >>what kind of deal Bill Gates must have worked out with the >>Bush Administration. He wondered what Microsoft might have >>given the government in return for the highly favorable >>terms of the settlement that's currently on the table in the >>court proceedings against the company, for monopoly >>practices in the operating systems arena. >> >>He commented specifically on the current ramifications of >>Microsoft's increasing position of power in the operating >>systems market: >> >>> Now, they have to get people to upgrade to >>> Windows XP -- that's the final step, the one that >>> fully turns over the keys to the Internet to them, >>> because after XP they can upgrade at will, routing >>> through Microsoft-owned servers, altering content, >>> and channeling communication through government >>> servers. After XP they fully own electronic >>> communication media, given the consent decree, >>> assuming it's approved by the court. >> >>Now, it has just come to light that Microsoft has been >>awarded a software "patent" for a "Digital Rights >>Management" operating system. >> >>This development shows us exactly where we stand now. >>Microsoft doesn't have to offer anything to the government; >>it has only to hold possession of a patent covering the >>"DRM" elements of its latest OS, thereby providing an almost >>absolutely assured trajectory toward establishing the terms >>by which the public's ability to communicate digital >>information will be controlled. >> >>Please see the message I am posting below, from the CYBERIA >>email list, which quotes from the patent. >> >>The real kicker is right here: >> >>> The digital rights management operating system >>> also limits the functions the user can perform on the >>> rights-managed data and the trusted application, and >>> can provide a trusted clock used in place of the >>> standard computer clock. >> >>The ability to use information freely is now going to be >>policed at the most intricate level, in the name of >>exclusive rights and to the detriment of the most >>fundamental Constitutional principles of our society. >> >>Whereas the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution assures >>that every American citizen has the full right to freedom of >>speech, we see here the ultimate legislative and technical >>trappings by which the public will be demarcated as mere >>information consumers. >> >>Facts and ideas are not contraband and may never be >>copyrighted or otherwise constrained under the terms of >>intellectual "property," whether they are bound up in an >>expressive work or not; and the computer is a *logic* device >>that now sits on nearly every citizen's desktop -- it is >>*not* a consumer appliance. From both the standpoints of >>speech and thought, so-called digital "rights management" is >>a utterly desolate *dead end.* >> >>Whether we speak of the constituent pieces of expressive >>works, or the nature of the computer itself, so-called >>digital "rights management" marks the beginning of a grand >>rollback of the means by which the promise of our >>participation in and advancement of civil society have >>lately been greatly augmented. >> >>Rather than facing the simple, plain truth that the power >>given in the U.S. Constitution for Congress to grant (or >>deny) to authors and inventors "exclusive right" to their >>works, was intended to cover products that do not >>intrinsically bind up the very means of communication and of >>our participation in civil society, we instead are >>experiencing a social condition wherein monopoly interests >>exploit the fluidity of logical products to evade the very >>terms of antitrust law and to assure that the public's >>ordinary rights do not gain purchase against their >>interests. Antitrust law is all about competition in a >>particular product, but software is as amorphous in its >>possibilities as our own vaunted power to think. Thus >>Microsoft easily maintains it is not in the browser market, >>competing with Netscape; it is, rather, in the market for >>"innovative operating systems." >> >>We are now seeing just how "innovative" that operating >>system can really be. >> >>If we do not confront the ludicrousness of the idea of >>holding a patent of this nature, and the outrageousness of >>our courts' failure to confront the truth about what holding >>market power in the field of informatin products really >>means, we will soon be free to speak and think -- only so >>long as we don't use our computers to do it. >> >>Thus, in the name of exclusive rights, Microsoft is serving >>old world publishing interests, acting by means of legal >>fictions to assure that citizens who seek to further the >>prospects of information technology, will be inexorably >>locked into the role of information consumers, blocked from >>exercising their own tools in full accordance with the >>rights that our Constitution supposedly guards. >> >>We are *all* information producers, whether we manifest this >>as a routine, inalienable part of the ordinary rights we >>exercise in our everyday lives, or whether we engage >>ourselves in the present, increasingly desperate and furtive >>struggle to guard commercial interests by restricting the >>use of information delivered in digital form. >> >>We have always been information producers, and we must not >>accede to the interests of those who do not regard the >>public at large as full and equal citizens, but rather as >>mere consumers. >> >> >>Seth Johnson >>Committee for Independent Technology >>December 14, 2001 >> >>Information Producers Initiative: >>http://RealMeasures.dyndns.org/C-FIT >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:18:08 -0800 >>> From: John Young >>> >>> Microsoft's patent for a Digital Rights Management >>> Operating System was awarded yesterday: >>> >>> http://cryptome.org/ms-drm-os.htm >>> >>> Abstract >>> >>> A digital rights management operating system protects >>> rights-managed data, such as downloaded content, from >>> access by untrusted programs while the data is loaded >>> into memory or on a page file as a result of the >>> execution of a trusted application that accesses the >>> memory. To protect the rights-managed data resident in >>> memory, the digital rights management operating system >>> refuses to load an untrusted program into memory while >>> the trusted application is executing or removes the >>> data from memory before loading the untrusted program. >>> If the untrusted program executes at the operating >>> system level, such as a debugger, the digital rights >>> management operating system renounces a trusted identity >>> created for it by the computer processor when the >>> computer was booted. To protect the rights-managed data >>> on the page file, the digital rights management >>> operating system prohibits raw access to the page file, >>> or erases the data from the page file before allowing >>> such access. Alternatively, the digital rights >>> management operating system can encrypt the >>> rights-managed data prior to writing it to the page >>> file. The digital rights management operating system >>> also limits the functions the user can perform on the >>> rights-managed data and the trusted application, and >> > can provide a trusted clock used in place of the >>> standard computer clock. >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia >>> Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot >>> Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request@listserv.aol.com >>> ********************************************************************** > >-- > >Francis Heylighen >co-director Center "Leo Apostel" >Free University of Brussels >http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/HEYL.html From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 18 15:33:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id ADFEC56F7A; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:33:33 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D0156F79 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-201-90-86.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.201.90.86]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GOK00N53CQK2X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:47:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:40:26 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Eric Kim Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] knowledge repository for life X-X-Sender: To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Joseph Rubenfeld, NYC's Deputy Commissioner for Advanced Technology and author of the CHAOS chess playing program, just published an essay entitled, "Knowledge Management for Life: Make the World a Better Place." http://www.acm.org/ubiquity/views/j_rubenfeld_1.html The title itself seems a succinct summary of Doug's mission. >From the article: "Knowledge Management (KM) is becoming a popular tool for improving productivity throughout the corporate world. KM includes capturing, organizing and disseminating valuable knowledge within an organization. KM attempts to promote learning and innovation organization-wide. This is a proposal to apply the principles of KM toward the goal of making the world a better place." ... "The principles of KM can help provide the wisdom to guide us in life's most important decisions regarding aspects of relationships, education, career, religion, ethics, morality, health and even entertainment. Through a single "Portal to Life," it is possible to collect, structure and browse a multitude of bits of wisdom and experience -- what works and what doesn't. Knowledge management is not just computer systems -- although there are a large and growing number of computer systems to support KM. KM includes such concepts as nurturing "communities of practice" and encouraging knowledge sharing by providing space (both real and virtual) in which people can have discussions. Similarly, KM for Life will provide computer facilities for threaded discussions as well as real meeting places for face-to-face discussions and counseling sessions." ... "Knowledge management is not just a technology or simply a set of computerized tools but it involves human interaction as well. The idea is to establish a set of centers which may be associated with guidance counselor centers in school and in religious institutions, libraries and other locations. One of the goals will be to bridge the so-called "digital divide" so that the people who are most in need of guidance and counseling will have easy access to these facilities." -Eugene -- +=== Eugene Eric Kim ===== eekim@eekim.com ===== http://www.eekim.com/ ===+ | "Writer's block is a fancy term made up by whiners so they | +===== can have an excuse to drink alcohol." --Steve Martin ===========+ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Tue Dec 18 15:55:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id EFBA556F7C; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:55:50 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF0856F79 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.228.7]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011219000922.OYKQ14593.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:09:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1FDAB5.EEF8C543@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:09:26 -0500 From: Henry K van Eyken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] [Fwd: Economist TQ Dialogue] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1CB97B0FC50C51DA2C108210" Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1CB97B0FC50C51DA2C108210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Compare and contrast this approach toward "interactive publishing" with other approaches, notably D3E used by Fleabyte ( www.fleabyte.org ). Would someone on this list care to do a proper comparison, do an articler on pros and cons, and make recommendations for Fleabyte? Henry P.S. We are trying to form a team of qualified people and just attracted an expert in the use of Linux and who is a system administrator at Montreal's McGill University. This ought to free up time for editorial work.Knowing that most talented people have other commitments we are aiming for short-term assignments, the query above being an example. --------------1CB97B0FC50C51DA2C108210 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from primbsd13.launch.2clk.net ([204.253.105.112]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011218185946.TFRN3274.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@primbsd13.launch.2clk.net> for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:59:46 -0500 Received: by launch.2clk.net; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:59:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Economist TQ Editor" To: vaneyken@sympatico.ca Subject: Economist TQ Dialogue Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:58:30 EST Reply-To: "Economist TQ Editor" Message-ID: <20011218135830472.6741316.92000338.16384.2@2clk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html X-DeliverBy: 200112182359 EST:1008737999 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 TQ Dialogue from Economist.com

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    The innovation of the "giant magneto-resistive" head—the breakthrough that boosted the capacity of hard-drives from a few gigabytes to 100 gigabytes and more—came from chance observation, basic research and a vast, painstaking search for the right materials. But is GMR merely a stop-gap solution?
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    After years of development, a new breed of catalysts called metallocenes is shaking up the plastics business, rapidly penetrating commodity markets and promising a new age of cheap designer plastics. Are they the revolution proponents claim?
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  • The wireless pen
    With 5,000 years of continuous development and billions of satisfied customers to its credit, the pen may not seem like a product in need of radical improvement. Yet plans are afoot to overhaul the humble writing instrument completely. With children learning to use computers before learning to write, is this a solution in search of a problem?
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--------------1CB97B0FC50C51DA2C108210-- From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 19 13:07:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 34F0B56F79; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:07:56 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B26A56F78 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.145.155.51]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28456 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:21:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun.com (d-usca14-129-126 [129.145.129.126]) by ha1sca-mail1.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id fBJLLUM09275 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:21:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C2104DB.F529B501@sun.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:21:31 -0800 From: Eric Armstrong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] [Fwd: The future of web publishing?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org OH yeah... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: The future of web publishing? ** Xerox PARC App Simplifies Web Editing Web-based communities can provide a great venue for collaboration--but there's nothing great about having a backlog of pages for one person to update. Enter Sparrow Web, a Java- based program from Xerox Palo Alto Research Center that's in beta testing. It's designed to simplify, and democratize, Web- based collaboration by allowing all members of a designated group to edit Web pages even if they lack HTML skills. Sparrow Web's "secret weapon" is a little black triangle, says Eric Bier, PARC principal scientist. The icon is used to indicate which Web-page sections are editable. When users click on the black triangle, a dialog box appears, allowing them to edit a paragraph of text, a table of figures, or other individual elements of a page. The program's templates take care of the formatting, so no worries about whether text should be bold or indented. And unlike other Web-editing applications, Sparrow Web (the beta version is available for download at alphaave.com) makes it possible to edit dynamic pages, not just large text blocks. PARC's hardware support group has been using Sparrow Web internally to track system maintenance since its initial creation in '96. But this year, Sparrow Web beta testing began in earnest. Search engine Google Inc. began using it in July for internal project management, and three school districts in California are taking it for a test drive. At Stanford University, a graduate engineering class that's working on engineering projects for several large auto manufacturers is using it for Web collaboration with team members located overseas. David Cannon, a Stanford mechanical engineering graduate student and class coach who led the initial assessment of Sparrow Web in September, liked its ease of use. "We were able to get the initial pages up in a few days," says Cannon. Sparrow Web isn't backed by a database, which simplified the set up. "I've worked with database-backed sites before, and they require significant upfront planning," he says. Now, students are using Web pages more frequently to post project updates, instead of relying on E-mail communication. For Stanford, it was important to have editable Web pages that were more than big text blocks--especially since they're also viewed by project sponsors like Ford Motor Co. and Toyota. "We get quite a bit of money from sponsor companies," Cannon says. "We want to show good results." - Sandra Swanson Regards, Dwight ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dwight Lucky IT Support (formerly WWAS-GTS-AIM) Sun Microsystems, Inc. 901 San Antonio Road, UNWK 14-201 Palo Alto, CA 94303-4900 Tel: 510.574.8062 (x38062) Fax: 510.574.8121 dwight.lucky@sun.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 19 14:34:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 0634256F7B; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:34:37 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.dbxmlgroup.com (public.dbxmlgroup.com [206.20.201.97]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2CE356F78 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21764 invoked by uid 1911); 19 Dec 2001 22:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dbxmlgroup.com) (208.48.202.156) by public.dbxmlgroup.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 22:48:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3C211A1F.3755CE2B@dbxmlgroup.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:52:15 -0700 From: Tom Bradford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org, ba-ohs-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Introductions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Greetings, Just making it known that, upon being invited by Murray Altheim, I have decided to join the lists, and plan to participate (to some degree) in any OHS-related discussions and development. For those who don't know me, I'm the creator of Apache Xindice. Xindice was formerly known as dbXML, and is a native XML database implemented in Java and distributed under the Apache license. I am also very interested in knowledge management, and was in the very *very* early stages of developing a distributed knowledge data store called MetaGlom, before I found out that the goals of the OHS project were very similar to my own. You can find more information about Xindice at http://xml.apache.org, and more information about MetaGlom at http://www.metaglom.com. I look forward to working with you. -- Tom Bradford - http://www.tbradford.org Developer - Apache Xindice (formerly dbXML) Maintainer - jEdit-Syntax Java Editing Bean Co-Author - O'Reilly's "Learning Xindice" From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 19 15:06:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id D837B56F7A; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:06:24 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from svpal.svpal.org (svpal.svpal.org [209.68.147.66]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C315A56F78; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from svpal.svpal.org (grantbow@localhost.svpal.org [127.0.0.1]) by svpal.svpal.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBJNJvwV014296; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grantbow@localhost) by svpal.svpal.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id fBJNJv2R014295; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:19:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:19:56 -0800 From: Grant Bowman To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org, ba-ohs-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Introductions Message-ID: <20011219151956.A14268@svpal.svpal.org> References: <3C211A1F.3755CE2B@dbxmlgroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.11i In-Reply-To: <3C211A1F.3755CE2B@dbxmlgroup.com> X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (borg.svpal.org) Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org * Tom Bradford [011219 14:45]: > [...] > Just making it known that, upon being invited by Murray Altheim, I have > decided to join the lists, and plan to participate (to some degree) in > any OHS-related discussions and development. > [...] Welcome Tom, It's great to see your interest. Welcome to the mail lists. There's a wealth of information available here. I think we all (including Doug) have trouble finding the most relevant pieces of Doug's work at the right times, so feel free to ask questions if you aren't already familiar with his work. I've seen some of your work already, but I'm reviewing your sites again now with great interest. Happy Holidays, -- -- Grant Bowman From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Wed Dec 19 15:23:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id BFD2056F79; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:23:47 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail2.cwo.com [209.210.78.33]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC2456F78 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st56.cwo.com [208.186.39.66]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBJNbLue017466 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:37:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011219153212.023d8df0@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:33:03 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] [Fwd: The future of web publishing?] In-Reply-To: <3C2104DB.F529B501@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org http://sparrow10.parc.xerox.com:8000/sparrow_2.0/doc/sparrow_intro.html http://www.parc.xerox.com/istl/projects/sparrow/doc/www7/ Downloadable for non-commercial, 90 day trial. Not open source. Jack At 01:21 PM 12/19/2001 -0800, you wrote: >OH yeah... > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: The future of web publishing? > >** Xerox PARC App Simplifies Web Editing > >Web-based communities can provide a great venue for >collaboration--but there's nothing great about having a backlog >of pages for one person to update. Enter Sparrow Web, a Java- >based program from Xerox Palo Alto Research Center that's in >beta testing. It's designed to simplify, and democratize, Web- >based collaboration by allowing all members of a designated >group to edit Web pages even if they lack HTML skills. > >Sparrow Web's "secret weapon" is a little black triangle, says >Eric Bier, PARC principal scientist. The icon is used to >indicate which Web-page sections are editable. When users click >on the black triangle, a dialog box appears, allowing them to >edit a paragraph of text, a table of figures, or other >individual elements of a page. The program's templates take >care of the formatting, so no worries about whether text should >be bold or indented. And unlike other Web-editing applications, >Sparrow Web (the beta version is available for download at >alphaave.com) makes it possible to edit dynamic pages, not just >large text blocks. > >PARC's hardware support group has been using Sparrow Web >internally to track system maintenance since its initial >creation in '96. But this year, Sparrow Web beta testing began >in earnest. Search engine Google Inc. began using it in July >for internal project management, and three school districts in >California are taking it for a test drive. At Stanford >University, a graduate engineering class that's working on >engineering projects for several large auto manufacturers is >using it for Web collaboration with team members located >overseas. > >David Cannon, a Stanford mechanical engineering graduate >student and class coach who led the initial assessment of >Sparrow Web in September, liked its ease of use. "We were able >to get the initial pages up in a few days," says Cannon. >Sparrow Web isn't backed by a database, which simplified the >set up. "I've worked with database-backed sites before, and >they require significant upfront planning," he says. Now, >students are using Web pages more frequently to post project >updates, instead of relying on E-mail communication. For >Stanford, it was important to have editable Web pages that were >more than big text blocks--especially since they're also viewed >by project sponsors like Ford Motor Co. and Toyota. "We get >quite a bit of money from sponsor companies," Cannon says. "We >want to show good results." - Sandra Swanson > > > >Regards, >Dwight > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Dwight Lucky >IT Support (formerly WWAS-GTS-AIM) > >Sun Microsystems, Inc. >901 San Antonio Road, UNWK 14-201 >Palo Alto, CA 94303-4900 > >Tel: 510.574.8062 (x38062) Fax: 510.574.8121 >dwight.lucky@sun.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 22 20:47:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id A535E56F79; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:47:12 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (mail8.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.58]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23ED656F78 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9998 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2001 05:00:41 -0000 Received: from 63-93-106-23.oak.dial.netzero.com (HELO netzero.net) (63.93.106.23) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2001 05:00:41 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2564D2.18D34CD@netzero.net> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:00:03 -0800 From: "John J. Deneen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-{C-UDP; EBM-SONY1} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Intel et. al. regarding Ultra-wideband for license exempt use by revising Part 15 of FCC Rules Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2384CD693BDA64593CAAB883" Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org --------------2384CD693BDA64593CAAB883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 12/19/01 The Honorable Michael Powell Federal Communications Commission 445 12th Street, S.W. Washington, DC 20554 Re: ET Docket No. 98-153 -- Revision of Part 15 of the Commission's Rules Regarding Ultra-Wideband Transmission Systems < https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6512975933 > Ex Parte Communication Dear Chairman Powell: As technology companies that share an interest in using ultra-wideband (UWB) technology in our products, we are writing you regarding the Commission's removal of the ultra-wideband (UWB) item from its December 12, 2001, open meeting agenda. We appreciate your commitment to resolve the process in February. We are concerned that a short delay could be extended, which in turn would be a substantial setback to the timely development and deployment of UWB services. This could have a negative impact on current industry momentum focused on building UWB technology and products. This proceeding is more than three years old with almost 800 comments, notices, and technical studies on the docket. UWB proponents have filed detailed technical analyses showing that operation of their devices will not cause harmful interference to other users of the spectrum, both government and non-government. These analyses also explain why studies that purport to show harmful interference gave incorrect results. It is time to issue a decision. The prompt adoption of rules is necessary not only to bring the benefits of this technology to consumers, but also to respond constructively to increasing interest from the military in UWB technology as reflected by the recent DARPA NETEX BAA. We urge you to issue the UWB report and order at the earliest possible date, and no later than the date indicated at your open meeting. Respectfully submitted, Kevin C. Kahn, Intel Fellow, Director, Communications & Interconnect Technology Lab, Intel Corp. Steven W. Stewart, Director, Public Affairs, IBM Corporation John K. Boidock, Vice President, Government Relations, Texas Instruments Dr. Ken Gray, Director, Multimedia Communications Dept., Sharp Labs of America Gregg Ward, Vice President, Government Relations, Siemens Corporation cc: Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy Commissioner Michael J. Copps Commissioner Kevin J. Martin December 14, 2001 Ms. Magalie Roman Salas Secretary Federal Communications Commission 445 12th St., S.W. Washington, DC 20554 Re: Summary of Oral Ex Parte Presentation Concerning Ultra-Wide Band Deployment (ET Docket No. 98-153, filed electronically) Dear Ms. Salas: On December 13, 2001, Mr. Joel Wiginton (Vice President, Government Affairs) and Mr. John Godfrey (Senior Manager, Government Affairs) held an ex parte meeting with Mr. Paul Margie of the Office of Commissioner Michael Copps to discuss Sony Electronics, Inc.'s support for regulatory approval for commercial deployment of Ultra-Wide Band technology. The attached statement accurately summarizes the detailed substance of the meeting. With sincere regards, (signed) John Godfrey Senior Manager, Government Affairs Sony Electronics, Inc. Enclosure Sony Electronics, Inc.'s Support for Regulatory Approval of Ultra-Wide Band (UWB) Radio Commercial Deployment Ex Parte Presentation Regarding ET Docket No. 98-153 December 13, 2001 As a leader in the field of consumer and professional electronic devices, Sony Electronics has been studying the advantages offered by UWB. We have determined that UWB technology has the potential for creating innovative and beneficial new applications involving wireless communications which could greatly enhance the flexibility and satisfaction enjoyed by consumers and professionals when using multimedia devices in business, home, and personal networks. We are enthusiastic about exploring UWB for use in our products. We are particularly interested in wireless data technologies with these features: • high data rates for audio and video communications • low power and sizes for portable applications • low costs for mass market products When UWB comes to the commercial market, we have every intention of exploring it to confirm it has these features and is appropriate for our products. What we have seen so far is very encouraging. However, it is not possible to explore the technology fully and realistically until commercial deployment is permitted. The FCC can make a reasonable decision with the currently available data. We believe there is sufficient information in the record to make an immediate decision permitting commercial deployment under rules that provide for both protection of incumbents and a valuable opportunity for new technology deployment. The potential value for data communications is much higher if peer-to-peer and outdoor uses are permitted. • Banning peer-to-peer use would preclude many potentially valuable consumer and professional applications (e.g., handheld to laptop PC; mobile phone to laptop; camcorder to laptop; digital camera to mobile phone). • Banning outdoor data communications would preclude many professional applications (e.g., news and sports coverage, video surveillance). Permitting deployment of UWB is good public policy. Deployment could enable a new, entrepreneurial U.S. industry to form and grow. Moreover, it could stimulate the electronics sector in general as new applications are enabled. Finally, it could enable more efficient use of spectrum, a long-standing goal of U.S. policy-makers. NASA's Entomopters Project What is an Entomopter? • An Entomopter is a flying vehicle that generates lift in a fashion similar to that of an insect. • It is based on a present DARPA program to develop micro- aircraft (on Earth) with flight characteristics like those of insects (flapping wings). • Mars flight would be in the same flight Reynolds number regime experienced by large insects on Earth. • Extremely high potential lift generation capability (C L ~ 5.0) • Context, particularly location, is an important source of information for human-computer interaction. • The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) technology. – UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< 1ns) wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy. • UWB system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional communications systems. – Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred over a 10 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power. • UWB system is software controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different functions as needed. UWB can be simultaneously used for a number of tasks: • High rate digital communications between one or more of the Entomopters and the lander or rover. • Precise position control between the Entomopters and surface or obstacles. • In- flight collision avoidance radar imaging. • Timing synchronization between Entomopters. More info ...... A communications scheme based on Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology appears to be the best choice for the entomopter vehicle. The information in this section was provided through a written report supplied by Marc Seibert of NASA Glenn Research Center. [26] Communications are integral to successful space missions. It is imperative that communications be reliable, robust, and ensure that science is returned from the mission. For high rate communications, UWB impulse trains can be modulated many different ways with information, possibly even adaptively throughout the mission as terrain and other signal propagation factors surface. No UWB modulation techniques are yet approved for terrestrial use (except under certain DoD/NTIA agreements), but several companies including Multispectral Solutions, Inc., Anro Engineering, Aetherwire, Inc. and Time Domain, Incorporated have already developed and are testing UWB-based systems, anticipating limited approval for public use by the Federal Communications Commission [27]. In the future, such systems may be used for wireless computer and voice networks, voice communications, geolocation of “anything” on Earth, and asset tracking (via RF tags) and inter-object positioning. If UWB is approved for public use in quantities, the benefits of the technology will become readily apparent. Future 4 th or 5 th generation cellular systems may be developed with this technology, enabling low-power “watch phones.” One UWB wireless network implementation already on the bench has been called “Bluetooth on Steroids.” UWB technology is based on the process of emitting rapid sequences of extremely short (<1ns), wideband (>1GHz), and extremely low power impulses or “bursts” of radio frequency (RF) energy for a host of desired purposes. UWB waveforms have been used for a variety of classified and unclassified military applications, including independent applications for high-rate communications, intercraft and geo-positioning and/or proximity fuzes, collision avoidance for aerial vehicles, and a variety of imaging, radar, and even electromagnetic pulse warfare systems. UWB impulses are the fundamental element at the core of each of these implementations, and we believe that amultifunctional subsystem could be fabricated and used by one or more manner to perform many functions with the single subsystem with accompanying antennae [28]. UWB is an attractive technology for potentially providing Entomopter missions. The benefits of this technology are listed below and shown in the diagram in Figure 30. 1. High-rate digital communications between one or more Entomopters and a lander vehicle 2. Precise positioning information between Entomopters, 3. In-flight collision avoidance radar imaging, and precise intercraft timing synchronization Among all the applications for which UWB has been a core technology, none of the systems appear to combine more than two functions into a single UWB subsystem. The only space mission known to make use of UWB technology was the Apollo 17 mission in 1967 to the moon, which included a “Ground Penetrating UWB Radar,” used to characterize the lunar regolith. More recently, newer dual-use UWB subsystems have emerged for terrestrial applications, which are strongly convincing, that a single software controlled UWB micro-impulse system could be developed that can: 1. perform all four of the functions listed above concurrently using the same hardware 2. require significantly less power, mass and physical space than conventional systems in use, and 3. be reconfigured in real-time to perform these functions, even autonomously, by the vehicles carrying the system. Unique space flight vehicles such as the Mars entomopter require flexible and hybrid technologies such as a multifunction UWB subsystem to achieve the tight mission architecture goals driving the mission, and effectively make use of precious power and mass budget resources. The UWB hardware onboard the entomopter will be capable of producing a variety of impulse shapes and frames, and will be software controlled. A master communications and navigation controller onboard the entomopter would continuously reconfigure UWB hardware autonomously and “on the fly” as shown in Figure 18. Upon command or at predefined times, the communications and navigation (COMM/NAV) subsystem will issue periodic impulses that could be coded to simultaneously monitor the location of the ground, and inform the lander of it’s current geo/space-physical position (in three dimensions). The COMM/NAV subsystem will also process returns from collision-avoidance impulses, and additional impulses will be issued to improve the system’s understanding of the size of an obstacle, and so on. Also throughout the mission, specific impulse frames will be filled with communications information back to the lander (or other entomopters) such as buffered images, meteorological data, entomopter health status, and other types of mission and flight coordination data. Groups of entomopters may need to hover in formation (depending on the mission), in which case the multifunction UWB subsystem would be used to coordinate the formation flight and synchronize measurement timings. Most importantly, the entomopter itself would autonomously request the use of the impulse energy in whatever ways necessary – imaging, communications, positioning or radar. Intelligent and autonomous flight dynamics must be considered and integrated into the control algorithms for the COMM/NAV subsystem as well. To illustrate the low power benefits of the technology, consider the UWB data transmission system example in Figure 32. This high-quality channel analysis was performed by MSSI, Inc. and represents a “reverse-link” in a mobile communications system and is an “uncoded” channel. The link would communicate up to 10 miles, and operate on only 56mW of average power (14.5W peak). Because of the duty cycle requirements of this link, the example above is 14 times more power efficient (11.5dB) than a typical current commercial device and the UWB system can transmit 10 miles at T1 data rates. In most communications circles these power figures are especially small, considering the range and quality of the channel. Error correction coding used extensively in space and other critical communications can further improve the performance of this channel (potentially to 10 -7 or better). Note that this scenario only illustrates the “reverse” link from the entomopter. The reason for this is because this portion of the link is considered the most power-critical, and has the highest bandwidth requirement, therefore it is most advantageous to illustrate the benefits of UWB in this portion of the link. The same antennae would be used at the lander and entomopter for a “forward” communications link (to the entomopter), potentially at even higher data rates if mission parameters require. [27] Figure 32 shows very conservative numbers for antenna gains and expected bit errors (without forward-error correction coding), yet provides for a very high bandwidth link from the entomopter to the lander. The true bandwidth requirements for the reverse link must be defined by the actual mission parameters and the number of science data collection modules being carried onboard. For example, an entomopter carrying four active digital video cameras would require a higher bandwidth reverse communications link than would be required for an entomopter carrying only meteorological sensors. On the specific aerial system developed by MSSI, Inc. for communications and collision avoidance, a UWB transmitter was fitted to an RC Helicopter. In the flight configuration, the UWB system measured 3" x 4" x 5" with a weight of 27.9 oz. The company notes that this was about twice the volume necessary for the circuit boards used, the chassis was much heavier than needed, and that the UWB boards alone weigh only a few ounces. In terms of performance, the system operated between 5.4 and 6.0 GHz, only required 0.2 Watts peak power (which can be increased significantly if necessary). A 0.025” wire was detected in flight at 300’. The example shown constitutes typical UWB performance characteristics for existing UWB communications systems. For an entomopter mission to Mars such specifications would be revisited, potentially resulting in increased link performance. In short, mission mass and power budget restrictions directly affect the bandwidth capability of UWB communications, and especially for communications, so UWB technology would greatly benefit a Mars mission. Location Determination For precise positioning applications, impulse trains can provide extremely precise positioning accuracies ( 12/19/01
The Honorable Michael Powell
Federal Communications Commission
445 12th Street, S.W.
Washington, DC 20554

Re: ET Docket No. 98-153 -- Revision of Part 15 of the Commission's Rules Regarding Ultra-Wideband Transmission Systems
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6512975933 >

Ex Parte Communication

Dear Chairman Powell:
As technology companies that share an interest in using ultra-wideband (UWB) technology in our products, we are writing you regarding the Commission's removal of the ultra-wideband (UWB) item from its December 12, 2001, open meeting agenda. We appreciate your commitment to resolve the process in February. We are concerned that a short delay could be extended, which in turn would be a substantial setback to the timely development and deployment of UWB services. This could have a negative impact on current industry momentum focused on building UWB technology and products.

This proceeding is more than three years old with almost 800 comments, notices, and technical studies on the docket. UWB proponents have filed detailed technical analyses showing that operation of their devices will not cause harmful interference to other users of the spectrum, both government and non-government. These analyses also explain why studies that purport to show harmful interference gave incorrect results. It is time to issue a decision.

The prompt adoption of rules is necessary not only to bring the benefits of this technology to consumers, but also to respond constructively to increasing interest from the military in UWB technology as reflected by the recent DARPA NETEX BAA. We urge you to issue the UWB report and order at the earliest possible date, and no later than the date indicated at your open meeting.

Respectfully submitted,

Kevin C. Kahn, Intel Fellow, Director, Communications & Interconnect Technology Lab, Intel Corp.
Steven W. Stewart, Director, Public Affairs, IBM Corporation
John K. Boidock, Vice President, Government Relations, Texas Instruments
Dr. Ken Gray, Director, Multimedia Communications Dept., Sharp Labs of America
Gregg Ward, Vice President, Government Relations, Siemens Corporation

cc: Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy
Commissioner Michael J. Copps
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin
 

December 14, 2001
Ms. Magalie Roman Salas
Secretary
Federal Communications Commission
445 12th St., S.W.
Washington, DC 20554

Re: Summary of Oral Ex Parte Presentation Concerning Ultra-Wide Band Deployment (ET Docket No. 98-153, filed electronically)

Dear Ms. Salas:
On December 13, 2001, Mr. Joel Wiginton (Vice President, Government Affairs) and Mr. John Godfrey (Senior Manager, Government Affairs) held an ex parte meeting with Mr. Paul Margie of the Office of Commissioner Michael Copps to discuss Sony Electronics, Inc.'s support for regulatory approval for commercial deployment of Ultra-Wide Band technology. The attached statement accurately summarizes the detailed substance of the meeting.

With sincere regards,
(signed)
John Godfrey
Senior Manager, Government Affairs
Sony Electronics, Inc.
Enclosure

Sony Electronics, Inc.'s Support for Regulatory Approval of Ultra-Wide Band (UWB) Radio Commercial Deployment
Ex Parte Presentation Regarding ET Docket No. 98-153

December 13, 2001

As a leader in the field of consumer and professional electronic devices, Sony Electronics has been studying the advantages offered by UWB. We have determined that UWB technology has the potential for creating innovative and beneficial new applications involving wireless communications which could greatly enhance the flexibility and satisfaction enjoyed by consumers and professionals when using multimedia devices in business, home, and personal networks.

We are enthusiastic about exploring UWB for use in our products.
We are particularly interested in wireless data technologies with these features:
• high data rates for audio and video communications
• low power and sizes for portable applications
• low costs for mass market products

When UWB comes to the commercial market, we have every intention of exploring it to confirm it has these features and is appropriate for our products. What we have seen so far is very encouraging. However, it is not possible to explore the technology fully and realistically until commercial deployment is permitted.

The FCC can make a reasonable decision with the currently available data.
We believe there is sufficient information in the record to make an immediate decision permitting commercial deployment under rules that provide for both protection of incumbents and a valuable opportunity for new technology deployment. The potential value for data communications is much higher if peer-to-peer and outdoor uses are permitted.
• Banning peer-to-peer use would preclude many potentially valuable consumer and professional applications (e.g., handheld to laptop PC; mobile phone to laptop; camcorder to laptop; digital camera to mobile phone).
• Banning outdoor data communications would preclude many professional applications (e.g., news and sports coverage, video surveillance).

Permitting deployment of UWB is good public policy.
Deployment could enable a new, entrepreneurial U.S. industry to form and grow. Moreover, it could stimulate the electronics sector in general as new applications are enabled. Finally, it could enable more efficient use of spectrum, a long-standing goal of U.S. policy-makers.
 

NASA's Entomopters Project
What is an Entomopter?
• An Entomopter is a flying vehicle that generates lift in a fashion similar to that of an insect.
• It is based on a present DARPA program to develop micro- aircraft (on Earth) with flight characteristics like those of insects (flapping wings).
• Mars flight would be in the same flight Reynolds number regime experienced by large insects on Earth.
• Extremely high potential lift generation capability (C L ~ 5.0)
• Context, particularly location, is an important source of information for human-computer interaction.
• The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) technology.
– UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< 1ns) wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy.
• UWB system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional communications systems.
– Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred over a 10 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power.
• UWB system is software controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different functions as needed.

UWB can be simultaneously used for a number of tasks:
• High rate digital communications between one or more of the Entomopters and the lander or rover.
• Precise position control between the Entomopters and surface or obstacles.
• In- flight collision avoidance radar imaging.
• Timing synchronization between Entomopters.

More info ......
A communications scheme based on Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology appears to be the best choice for the entomopter vehicle. The information in this section was provided through a written report supplied by Marc Seibert of NASA Glenn Research Center. [26]
Communications are integral to successful space missions. It is imperative that communications be reliable, robust, and ensure that science is returned from the mission. For high rate communications, UWB impulse trains can be modulated many different ways with information, possibly even adaptively throughout the mission as terrain and other signal propagation factors surface. No UWB modulation techniques are yet approved for terrestrial use (except under certain DoD/NTIA agreements), but several companies including Multispectral Solutions, Inc., Anro Engineering, Aetherwire, Inc. and Time Domain, Incorporated have already developed and are testing UWB-based systems, anticipating limited approval for public use by the Federal Communications Commission [27]. In the future, such systems may be used for wireless computer and voice networks, voice communications, geolocation of “anything” on Earth, and asset tracking (via RF tags) and inter-object positioning. If UWB is approved for public use in quantities, the benefits of the technology will become readily apparent. Future 4 th or 5 th generation cellular systems may be developed with this technology, enabling low-power “watch phones.” One UWB wireless network implementation already on the bench has been called “Bluetooth on Steroids.”

UWB technology is based on the process of emitting rapid sequences of extremely short (<1ns), wideband (>1GHz), and extremely low power impulses or “bursts” of radio frequency (RF) energy for a host of desired purposes. UWB waveforms have been used for a variety of classified and unclassified military applications, including independent applications for high-rate communications, intercraft and geo-positioning and/or proximity fuzes, collision avoidance for aerial vehicles, and a variety of imaging, radar, and even electromagnetic pulse warfare systems. UWB impulses are the fundamental element at the core of each of these implementations, and we believe that amultifunctional subsystem could be fabricated and used by one or more manner to perform many functions with the single subsystem with accompanying antennae [28].

UWB is an attractive technology for potentially providing Entomopter missions. The benefits of this technology are listed below and shown in the diagram in Figure 30.

1. High-rate digital communications between one or more Entomopters and a lander vehicle
2. Precise positioning information between Entomopters,
3. In-flight collision avoidance radar imaging, and precise intercraft timing synchronization

Among all the applications for which UWB has been a core technology, none of the systems appear to combine more than two functions into a single UWB subsystem. The only space mission known to make use of UWB technology was the Apollo 17 mission in
1967 to the moon, which included a “Ground Penetrating UWB Radar,” used to characterize the lunar regolith. More recently, newer dual-use UWB subsystems have emerged for terrestrial applications, which are strongly convincing, that a single software controlled

UWB micro-impulse system could be developed that can:
1. perform all four of the functions listed above concurrently using the same hardware
2. require significantly less power, mass and physical space than conventional systems in use, and
3. be reconfigured in real-time to perform these functions, even autonomously, by the vehicles carrying the system.

Unique space flight vehicles such as the Mars entomopter require flexible and hybrid technologies such as a multifunction UWB subsystem to achieve the tight mission architecture goals driving the mission, and effectively make use of precious power and
mass budget resources.

The UWB hardware onboard the entomopter will be capable of producing a variety of impulse shapes and frames, and will be software controlled. A master communications and navigation controller onboard the entomopter would continuously reconfigure UWB
hardware autonomously and “on the fly” as shown in Figure 18. Upon command or at predefined times, the communications and navigation (COMM/NAV) subsystem will issue periodic impulses that could be coded to simultaneously monitor the location of the ground, and inform the lander of it’s current geo/space-physical position (in three dimensions). The COMM/NAV subsystem will also process returns from collision-avoidance impulses, and additional impulses will be issued to improve the system’s understanding of the size of an obstacle, and so on. Also throughout the mission, specific impulse frames will be filled with communications information back to the lander (or other entomopters) such as buffered images, meteorological data, entomopter health status, and other types of mission and flight coordination data.

Groups of entomopters may need to hover in formation (depending on the mission), in which case the multifunction UWB subsystem would be used to coordinate the formation flight and synchronize measurement timings. Most importantly, the entomopter itself
would autonomously request the use of the impulse energy in whatever ways necessary – imaging, communications, positioning or radar. Intelligent and autonomous flight dynamics must be considered and integrated into the control algorithms for the
COMM/NAV subsystem as well.

To illustrate the low power benefits of the technology, consider the UWB data transmission system example in Figure 32. This high-quality channel analysis was performed by MSSI, Inc. and represents a “reverse-link” in a mobile communications system and is an “uncoded” channel. The link would communicate up to 10 miles, and operate on only 56mW of average power (14.5W peak). Because of the duty cycle requirements of this link, the example above is 14 times more power efficient (11.5dB) than a typical current commercial device and the UWB system can transmit 10 miles at T1 data rates. In most communications circles these power figures are especially small, considering the range and quality of the channel. Error correction coding used extensively in space and other critical communications can further improve the performance of this channel (potentially to 10 -7 or better). Note that this scenario only illustrates the “reverse” link from the entomopter. The reason for this is because this portion of the link is considered the most power-critical, and has the highest bandwidth requirement, therefore it is most advantageous to illustrate the benefits of UWB in this portion of the link. The same antennae would be used at the lander and entomopter for a “forward” communications link (to the entomopter), potentially at even higher data rates if mission parameters require. [27]

Figure 32 shows very conservative numbers for antenna gains and expected bit errors (without forward-error correction coding), yet provides for a very high bandwidth link from the entomopter to the lander. The true bandwidth requirements for the reverse link
must be defined by the actual mission parameters and the number of science data collection modules being carried onboard. For example, an entomopter carrying four active digital video cameras would require a higher bandwidth reverse communications link than would be required for an entomopter carrying only meteorological sensors. On the specific aerial system developed by MSSI, Inc. for communications and collision avoidance, a UWB transmitter was fitted to an RC Helicopter. In the flight configuration, the UWB system measured 3" x 4" x 5" with a weight of 27.9 oz. The company notes that this was about twice the volume necessary for the circuit boards used, the chassis was much heavier than needed, and that the UWB boards alone weigh only a few ounces. In terms of performance, the system operated between 5.4 and 6.0 GHz, only required 0.2 Watts peak power (which can be increased significantly if necessary). A 0.025” wire was detected in flight at 300’. The example shown constitutes typical UWB performance characteristics for existing UWB communications systems. For an entomopter mission to Mars such specifications would be revisited, potentially resulting in increased link performance. In short, mission mass and power budget restrictions directly affect the bandwidth capability of UWB communications, and especially for communications, so UWB technology would greatly benefit a Mars mission.
 

Location Determination
For precise positioning applications, impulse trains can provide extremely precise positioning accuracies (<cm) at appreciable distances [28]. All mission vehicles could be programmed to regularly issue generic “I am here” type messages (even while solar charging on the ground), or, every impulse transmission from each vehicle could be processed by the lander and analyzed in time to compute the physical position of the “talker” at the instant it is “talking.” Using the first technique may constitute a more reliable means for locating vehicles, however, the second technique is the most bandwidth efficient since no extra impulses would be issued strictly for one purpose. Communications impulse energy could be analyzed for both information content and spatial origination. Figure 33 illustrates from a plan (top view) perspective how the antennae on one entomopter and the lander could locate each other in 3-dimensions.

Radar Collision Avoidance
To suit radar, collision avoidance, and potentially “synthetic vision,” requirements in flight, the same types of impulses can be used to accurately measure scattered components in an environment better than conventional radar. UWB technology has been used for decades for ground-penetrating radar, and one company is even able to locate striations of gold 20 feet into rock. Dolphins naturally emit echolocation impulses similar to UWB waveforms to navigate in unclear waters, and have even located a meal buried a several feet under a sandy sea bottom. UWB radar also has the capability to “range gate” impulse returns, enabling them to ignore returns from close objects (like a wall, boulder, etc) and effectively “see through” these objects to image the environment on the other side.

UWB collision avoidance systems have already been employed in support of DARPA’s Micro Air Vehicle (MAV) program, at least one company demonstrating a capability for an autonomous flying vehicle to detect and avoid objects as small as a 0.25” wire in the
flight path. This technology could be enhanced to provide an autonomous flight vehicle with this capability, as well as a real-time synthetic view of the environment in any direction, and avoidance of other vehicles in flight. With additional special processing,
such a system could be used in conjunction with the intercraft positioning processing to synchronize formation or cluster flight arrangements, and so on. Distributed Timing, Intercraft Synchronization and Marking Experiment Events in Flight For precise intercraft timing, a multifunction UWB subsystem can provide the means for intercraft synchronization and for experiment marking events. Similar to the techniques discussed above for communications and positioning, special impulse protocols could be used to announce an impending mark event, trigger entomopter flight coordination events, and broadcast distributed event measurement timing. For example, imagine four entomopters used to measure upper atmosphere oxygen content in four different physical locations simultaneously. The lander master controller would designate one of the entomopters as lead timing vehicle, and distribute mission parameters to the vehicles in one broadcast or independently. The lead entomopter would autonomously synchronize timing between the vehicles (in a manner yet to be determined), then coordinate assembly of the proper formation for the experiment and initiate the measurement gathering activity.

This type of experiment autonomy obviously relies on other navigational control capabilities in the entomopter as well, but a multifunction UWB subsystem may enable such complicated autonomy that these systems require. A basic messaging scheme an
entomopter master controller and the COMM/NAV subsystem would also be required to facilitate such autonomy. --------------2384CD693BDA64593CAAB883-- ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sat Dec 22 20:53:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 7040F56F79; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:53:06 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail7.wlv.netzero.net (mail7.wlv.netzero.net [209.247.163.57]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D66656F78 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2201 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2001 04:59:59 -0000 Received: from 63-93-106-23.oak.dial.netzero.com (HELO netzero.net) (63.93.106.23) by mail7.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2001 04:59:59 -0000 Message-ID: <3C2564A8.E1B4E78@netzero.net> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:59:20 -0800 From: "John J. Deneen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-{C-UDP; EBM-SONY1} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Battle Over the Airwaves vs. CITRIS/TinyOS/Telegraph/Cal-(IT)2, Folkstone Designs, and need for Spectrum Policy Reform Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------26586D3035B470CC3E5FB461" Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org --------------26586D3035B470CC3E5FB461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Our world is awash in data Data pooled in databases and web services, data streaming from sensors, even data bottled up in small devices. This data is the basis of life for modern commerce, science, utilites, and other large human endeavours. It is also critical to any individual who lives in a world dependent on these institutions. Estimates say that web hypertext (and assorted MIME files) accounts for only 0.2% of the data available on the internet. The rest sits "behind forms" in databases and other non-http servers. As part of telegraph, we're studying how to leverage that data. Telegraph is an adaptive dataflow system, which allows individuals and institutions to access, combine, analyze, and otherwise benefit from this data wherever it resides. As a dataflow system, Telegraph can tap into pooled data stored on the network, and harness streams of live data coming out of networked sensors, software, and smart devices. In order to operate robustly in this volatile, internetworked world, Telegraph is adaptive -- it uses new technologies such as rivers and eddies to route unpredictable and bursty dataflows through computing resources on a network, resulting in a steady, manageable stream of useful information. "In 2010 MEMS sensors will be everywhere, and sensing virtually everything. Scavenging power from sunlight, vibration, thermal gradients, and background RF, sensors motes will be immortal, completely self contained, single chip computers with sensing, communication, and power supply built in. Entirely solid state, and with no natural decay processes, they may well survive the human race. Descendants of dolphins may mine them from arctic ice and marvel at the extinct technology." Context, particularly location, is an important source of information for human-computer interaction. In our project, we examine hardware, networking, and systems issues for a location sensing infrastructure. We present a thorough empirical analysis of the TinyOS RF motes. • E.g., The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) technology. – UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< 1ns) wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy. • UWB system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional communications systems. – Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred over a 10 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power. • UWB system is software controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different functions as needed. "Moore’s law" is catching up to telecom, and the result isn’t going to be pretty for the telcos. Consider instant gigabit communications with NO ONE in control of it. If these things create distributed networks on the fly then every highway with enough traffic density and enough of these things in cars becomes an intercity multi-gigabit communication channel. Even at 900 MHz you can get a citywide data network. That's fascinating -- a "cellular" phone network without towers or other infrastructure. If there were enough of these things scattered around an area, they could (theoretically) all be in communication with each other, providing mobile phone and data service, at least among themselves, with NO company getting any per-minute dollars! Of course that's improbable -- right? There are lots of technical reasons why this couldn't feasibly work. Just like, a few years ago, nobody could imagine a pervasive, flexible data network that would turn many established ways of doing business topsy-turvy, change the landscape of the most successful companies on the planet, and rewrite the rules for commerce -- all within a few years. Now, add the potential of fledgling nanotechnologies into this mix, spawning a swarm of tiny dirt-cheap devices (literally) scattered across the landscape, each providing communications relay services. Suddenly, their collectively providing a pervasive wireless network might not seem so impossible after all! But don't worry -- such industry-shaking changes could never occur. Again. Could they? PRINCIPLES FOR SPECTRUM POLICY REFORM Today the American people collectively own the most valuable resource in the emerging information economy: the airwaves, also known as the electromagnetic spectrum. Auctions conducted last year in Europe and early this year in the U.S. suggest that spectrum occupied by commercial licensees has a market value well in excess of $300 billion. Unfortunately, while high bids by wireless phone companies should be a boon to the ordinary citizens who own the airwaves, high prices also evidence a policy-induced spectrum shortage that threatens to delay the widespread availability and affordability of wireless broadband services. In short, Americans are prisoners of an outdated industrial policy. We are trapped somewhere between the outmoded central-planning approach that characterized Federal Communications Commission (FCC) policy until the mid-1990s, and a new more flexible and market-based approach which, unfortunately, applies only to mobile wireless services. Most of the spectrum is still rigidly “zoned” for exclusive use by industries (viz., broadcasters, private two-way radio services, satellite and fixed wireless services) that pay nothing to use this increasingly scarce and valuable public asset. This outdated zoning and giveaway policy both fails to use a more flexible market mechanism to allocate spectrum and neglects to charge rent to all commercial licensees. This has produced the worst possible outcome: a spectrum shortage, no incentives for efficient use, government picking “winners” and “losers” among industries, and the forfeiture of tens of billions in public revenue. This paper answers the question Senator John McCain asked FCC Chairman Michael Powell at the latter’s confirmation hearing in May: “What principles do you think should guide the FCC in its decision-making” with respect to competing demands for spectrum? In considering principles to guide spectrum reform, it is important to recognize that policymakers face both an immediate and a long-term challenge concerning management of this increasingly valuable public asset. < http://www.newamerica.net/Download_Docs/pdfs/Pub_File_610_1.pdf> SPECTRUM DROUGHT One of the last actions of the (second) Clinton era was a proposal to the FCC to create a "secondary market" for spectrum. Basically, a spectrum-holder would be able to sublease spectrum to other users without a lengthy and expensive negotiation with the FCC. If a company has rights to use spectrum in the U.S., those rights would include the ability to offer it to other companies to use. Such secondary markets would be a boon to smaller service providers that could not afford to compete in spectrum auctions, but could afford to pay some reasonable fee for use of licensed spectrum. Another FCC initiative was to begin serious discussion about "software defined radios" (SDRs) — basically wireless systems that would be "smart" enough to change their behavior based on spectrum conditions. Such behavior might include analyzing what spectrum is in use in the SDR’s immediate area, and — if broadband spectrum — perhaps a television broadcast channel in a very rural area — is available for use, the unit could reconfigure itself to make use of that spectrum. If transmissions are heard, then the unit makes other choices — perhaps use of license-exempt spectrum. NEAR FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES ArrayComm is developing a very promising technology that, in effect, steers high-speed wireless connections to individual users. ArrayComm hopes to offer 1 Mbps connections to semi-stationary users — not suitable for moving vehicles, but works well for pedestrians — and the signal acquisition process is expected to take a few seconds at most. Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology, of which the most prominent vendor is Time Domain, exhibits incredible promise. Basically, UWB is "ultimate spread spectrum" — spreading a wireless signal across a very wide slice of spectrum, and doing so at very low power. UWB technology can, theoretically, share spectrum with other services. Many entrenched wireless communications suppliers, service providers and even government agencies are fighting hard against allowing UWB to become widely used in the U.S. It seems likely that UWB will be deployed widely in other countries before broad deployment in North America. Aperto Networks and Malibu Networks are only two of a number of "next generation" broadband wireless systems manufacturers that will offer highly integrated broadband wireless systems in 2001. Both companies have rethought the problem of broadband wireless Internet access and have tightly integrated a number of disparate wireless technologies. As a result, their systems look very promising, not only for conventional Internet access, but also sufficient quality of service and service differentiation to provide usable television over IP, voice over IP, videoconferencing and other services. Finally, when considering these issues, keep in mind that spectrum is not a finite resource. Spectrum is entirely a creation of technology. Therefore, if the need were to arise — as it likely will if wireless technology continues to grow at an exponential rate — more spectrum can be created with the use of increasingly sophisticated wireless technology. Though this is not currently a reality, it could play an important part in the future of the wireless industry as the current wireless resources are depleted. < http://program.intel.com/solutions/shared/en/resource/insight/techtrends/ecosystems.htm > Conclusion: Spectrum Management The need for setting ground rules for how people use the radio spectrum will not disappear. We need to make sure adequate spectrum exists to accommodate the rapid growth in existing services as well as new applications of this national and international resource. Even with new technologies such as software-defined radios and ultra-wideband microwave transmission, concerns about interference will continue (and perhaps grow) and the need for defining licensees and other users' rights will continue to be a critical function of the government. We will thus continue to conduct auctions of available spectrum to speed introduction of new services. In order to protect the safety of life and property, we must also continue to consider public safety needs as new spectrum-consuming technologies and techniques are deployed. (See: "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents" < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html>) References 1) CITRIS - to solve large-scale societal problems affecting the quality of life, such as the energy shortage. < http://citris.berkeley.edu > 2) TinyOS - a self-organizng managing concurrent two-way active messaging and multi-hop ad-hoc sensing/actuator and routing networks for flow-thru communications instead of wait-command-respond. Combining sensing, communications, and computation into a single architecture. Ehe application consists of a number of sensors distributed within a localized area. They monitor the temperature and light conditions and periodically transmit their measurements to a central base station. Each sensor not only acts as a data source, but it may also forward data for sensors that are out of range of the base station. < http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinyos > < http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~kubitron/courses/cs252-F00/projects/reports/project6_report.pdf> 3) 'Smart dust' to the energy rescue - aimed at putting a complete sensing/communication platform inside a cubic millimeter, including power supply, analog and digital electronics, etc. Thousands or millions of these dust motes will all communicate simultaneously. Applications are all over the map. Instrumented hospital rooms so that your syringe knows if you're the right patient or not, instrumented bodies so that we can all participate in 3D virtual ballet, instrumented atmosphere so we can predict weather. < http://www.medserv.no/article.php?sid=261 > < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/packaging2001.ppt > 4) "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents" - the Smart Dust project is designing devices that will cause massively distributed sensor networks to not only be rapidly deployed, but also nearly vanish into the environment. The capabilities of such systems will dramatically change the way in which chemical and biological agent detection is performed before, during, and after and attack These networks will provide more detailed information, more rapidly, and from more locations than previously possible. < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html> 5) Cal-(IT)2 - a Wireless Sensor Network Testbed Proposed to Monitor Pollution < http://www.soe.ucsd.edu/news_events/news_2000/cal_it2proposal.pdf > 6) Telegraph project - an adaptive dataflow system being developed at UC Berkeley for Federated Facts and Figures < http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/cs262proj.html > 7) Migrating Toward the Intelligent Device Bill of Rights < http://www.jacksons.net/tac/FCC-%20TAC%20-%20SDR%20and%20SM%20reg-27Sep00-v1.ppt > 8) Folkstone Designs: Simple Synergies < http://www.folkstone.ca/wireless.html > --------------26586D3035B470CC3E5FB461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Our world is awash in data
Data pooled in databases and web services, data streaming from sensors, even data bottled up in small devices. This data is the basis of life for modern commerce, science, utilites, and other large human endeavours.  It is also critical to any individual who lives in a world dependent on these institutions.

Estimates say that web hypertext (and assorted MIME files) accounts for only 0.2% of the data available on the internet.  The rest sits "behind forms" in databases and other non-http servers. As part of telegraph, we're studying how to leverage that data.

Telegraph is an adaptive dataflow system, which allows individuals and institutions to access, combine, analyze, and otherwise benefit from this data wherever it resides.  As a dataflow system, Telegraph can tap into pooled data stored on the network, and harness streams of live data coming out of networked sensors, software, and smart devices.  In order to operate robustly in this volatile, internetworked world, Telegraph is adaptive -- it uses new technologies such as rivers and eddies to route unpredictable and bursty dataflows through computing resources on a network, resulting in a steady, manageable stream of useful information.

"In 2010 MEMS sensors will be everywhere, and sensing virtually everything. Scavenging power from sunlight, vibration, thermal gradients, and background RF, sensors motes will be immortal, completely self contained, single chip computers with sensing, communication, and power supply built in. Entirely solid state, and with no natural decay processes, they may well survive the human race.  Descendants of dolphins may mine them from arctic ice and marvel at the extinct technology."
Context, particularly location, is an important source of information for human-computer interaction.  In our project, we examine hardware, networking, and systems issues for a location sensing infrastructure. We present a thorough empirical analysis of the TinyOS RF motes.

• E.g., The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) technology.
– UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< 1ns) wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy.
• UWB system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional communications systems.
– Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred over a 10 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power.
• UWB system is software controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different functions as needed.

"Moore’s law" is catching up to telecom, and the result isn’t going to be pretty for the telcos.
Consider instant gigabit communications with NO ONE in control of it.  If these things create distributed networks on the fly then every highway with enough traffic density and enough of these things in cars becomes an intercity multi-gigabit communication channel. Even at 900 MHz you can get a citywide data network.

That's fascinating -- a "cellular" phone network without towers or other infrastructure.  If there were enough of these things scattered around an area, they could (theoretically) all be in communication with each other, providing mobile phone and data service, at least among themselves, with NO company getting any per-minute dollars!

Of course that's improbable -- right?  There are lots of technical reasons why this couldn't feasibly work.

Just like, a few years ago, nobody could imagine a pervasive, flexible data network that would turn many established ways of doing business topsy-turvy, change the landscape of the most successful companies on the planet, and rewrite the rules for commerce -- all within a few years.

Now, add the potential of fledgling nanotechnologies into this mix, spawning a swarm of tiny dirt-cheap devices (literally) scattered across the landscape, each providing communications relay services.  Suddenly, their collectively providing a pervasive wireless network
might not seem so impossible after all!

But don't worry -- such industry-shaking changes could never occur.  Again.  Could they?

PRINCIPLES FOR SPECTRUM POLICY REFORM
Today the American people collectively own the most valuable resource in the emerging information economy: the airwaves, also known as the electromagnetic spectrum. Auctions conducted last year in Europe and early this year in the U.S. suggest that spectrum occupied by commercial licensees has a market value well in excess of $300 billion. Unfortunately, while high bids by wireless phone companies should be a boon to the ordinary citizens who own the airwaves, high prices also evidence a policy-induced spectrum shortage that threatens to delay the widespread availability and affordability of wireless broadband services.

In short, Americans are prisoners of an outdated industrial policy. We are trapped somewhere between the outmoded central-planning approach that characterized Federal Communications Commission (FCC) policy until the mid-1990s, and a new more flexible and market-based approach which, unfortunately, applies only to mobile wireless services. Most of the spectrum is still rigidly “zoned” for exclusive use by industries (viz., broadcasters, private two-way radio services, satellite and fixed wireless services) that pay nothing to use this increasingly scarce and valuable public asset. This outdated zoning and giveaway policy both fails to use a more flexible market mechanism to allocate spectrum and neglects to charge rent to all commercial licensees. This has produced the worst possible outcome: a spectrum shortage, no incentives for efficient use, government picking “winners” and “losers” among industries, and the forfeiture of tens of billions in public revenue.

This paper answers the question Senator John McCain asked FCC Chairman Michael Powell at the latter’s confirmation hearing in May: “What principles do you think should guide the FCC in its decision-making” with respect to competing demands for spectrum? In considering principles to guide spectrum reform, it is important to recognize that policymakers face both an immediate and a long-term challenge concerning management of this increasingly valuable public asset.
< http://www.newamerica.net/Download_Docs/pdfs/Pub_File_610_1.pdf>

SPECTRUM DROUGHT
One of the last actions of the (second) Clinton era was a proposal to the FCC to create a "secondary market" for spectrum. Basically, a spectrum-holder would be able to sublease spectrum to other users without a lengthy and expensive negotiation with the FCC. If a
company has rights to use spectrum in the U.S., those rights would include the ability to offer it to other companies to use. Such secondary markets would be a boon to smaller service providers that could not afford to compete in spectrum auctions, but could afford to pay some reasonable fee for use of licensed spectrum.

Another FCC initiative was to begin serious discussion about "software defined radios" (SDRs) — basically wireless systems that would be "smart" enough to change their behavior based on spectrum conditions. Such behavior might include analyzing what spectrum is in use in the SDR’s immediate area, and — if broadband spectrum — perhaps a television broadcast channel in a very rural area — is available for use, the unit could reconfigure itself to make use of that spectrum. If transmissions are heard, then the unit makes other choices — perhaps use of license-exempt spectrum.

NEAR FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES
ArrayComm is developing a very promising technology that, in effect, steers high-speed wireless connections to individual users. ArrayComm hopes to offer 1 Mbps connections to semi-stationary users — not suitable for moving vehicles, but works well for pedestrians — and the signal acquisition process is expected to take a few seconds at most.

Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology, of which the most prominent vendor is Time Domain, exhibits incredible promise. Basically, UWB is "ultimate spread spectrum" — spreading a wireless signal across a very wide slice of spectrum, and doing so at very low power. UWB
technology can, theoretically, share spectrum with other services. Many entrenched wireless communications suppliers, service providers and even government agencies are fighting hard against allowing UWB to become widely used in the U.S. It seems likely that UWB will be deployed widely in other countries before broad deployment in North America.

Aperto Networks and Malibu Networks are only two of a number of "next generation" broadband wireless systems manufacturers that will offer highly integrated broadband wireless systems in 2001. Both companies have rethought the problem of broadband wireless
Internet access and have tightly integrated a number of disparate wireless technologies. As a result, their systems look very promising, not only for conventional Internet access, but also sufficient quality of service and service differentiation to provide usable television over IP, voice over IP, videoconferencing and other services.

Finally, when considering these issues, keep in mind that spectrum is not a finite resource. Spectrum is entirely a creation of technology. Therefore, if the need were to arise — as it likely will if wireless technology continues to grow at an exponential rate — more spectrum can be created with the use of increasingly sophisticated wireless technology.

Though this is not currently a reality, it could play an important part in the future of the wireless industry as the current wireless resources are depleted.
< http://program.intel.com/solutions/shared/en/resource/insight/techtrends/ecosystems.htm >

Conclusion: Spectrum Management
The need for setting ground rules for how people use the radio spectrum will not disappear. We need to make sure adequate spectrum exists to accommodate the rapid growth in existing services as well as new applications of this national and international resource. Even with new technologies such as software-defined radios and ultra-wideband microwave transmission, concerns about interference will continue (and perhaps grow) and the need for defining licensees and other users' rights will continue to be a critical function of the government. We will thus continue to conduct auctions of available spectrum to speed introduction of new services.

In order to protect the safety of life and property, we must also continue to consider public safety needs as new spectrum-consuming technologies and techniques are deployed. (See: "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents"
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html>)
 

References
1) CITRIS - to solve large-scale societal problems affecting the quality of life, such as the energy shortage.
< http://citris.berkeley.edu >
2) TinyOS  - a self-organizng managing concurrent two-way active messaging and multi-hop ad-hoc sensing/actuator and routing networks for flow-thru communications instead of wait-command-respond. Combining sensing, communications, and computation into a single architecture. Ehe application consists of a number of sensors distributed within a localized area. They monitor the
temperature and light conditions and periodically transmit their measurements to a central base station. Each sensor not only acts as a data source, but it may also forward data for sensors that are out of range of the base station. < http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinyos >
< http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~kubitron/courses/cs252-F00/projects/reports/project6_report.pdf>
3) 'Smart dust' to the energy rescue -  aimed at putting a complete sensing/communication platform inside a cubic
millimeter, including power supply, analog and digital electronics, etc. Thousands or millions of these dust motes will all communicate simultaneously. Applications are all over the map. Instrumented hospital rooms so that your syringe knows if you're the right patient or not, instrumented bodies so that we can all participate in 3D virtual ballet, instrumented atmosphere so we can predict weather.
http://www.medserv.no/article.php?sid=261 >
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/packaging2001.ppt >
4) "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents" - the Smart Dust project is designing devices that will cause massively distributed sensor networks to not only be rapidly deployed, but also nearly vanish into the environment.  The
capabilities of such systems will dramatically change the way in which chemical and biological agent detection is performed before, during, and after and attack  These networks will provide more detailed information, more rapidly, and from more locations than previously possible.
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html>
5) Cal-(IT)2 - a Wireless Sensor Network Testbed Proposed to Monitor Pollution
< http://www.soe.ucsd.edu/news_events/news_2000/cal_it2proposal.pdf >
6) Telegraph project - an adaptive dataflow system being developed at UC Berkeley for Federated Facts and Figures
< http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/cs262proj.html >
7) Migrating Toward the Intelligent Device Bill of Rights
< http://www.jacksons.net/tac/FCC-%20TAC%20-%20SDR%20and%20SM%20reg-27Sep00-v1.ppt >
8) Folkstone Designs: Simple Synergies < http://www.folkstone.ca/wireless.html >
 
  --------------26586D3035B470CC3E5FB461-- ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Sun Dec 23 03:05:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 7E67A56F79; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 03:05:49 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF37C56F78 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 03:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.165.180]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011223111927.WEWK3274.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 06:19:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3C25BDCE.BF2808AC@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 06:19:42 -0500 From: Henry K van Eyken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Battle Over the Airwaves vs. CITRIS/TinyOS/Telegraph/Cal-(IT)2, Folkstone Designs, and need for Spectrum Policy Reform References: <3C2564A8.E1B4E78@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org John. Today's world is severely testing my focusing, digesting, and comprehension skills. In fact, I often feel like that fellow who once screamed, "Stop the world! I wanna get off!" My problem is often compounded by not being able to put data in social context such as quickly grasping who is the author of a piece of writing., whether, for example, it is the sender of a piece of email or whether the sender is duplicating from another source. Of course, to the superobjective, all-comprehending mind that should make no difference whatsoever; the value is in the content not in the messenger. But then again, if I do not (immediately) grasp bits and pieces of an email's content then I like to have a feel for the motivation and authoritativeness of the source, in which case I need to know the source by, at the very least, his/her/its name. That may provide some immediate mental comfort. I am aware that you make exceedingly valuable contributions in terms of content, but I have difficulty putting them into my very own context, my view of the world. For example, I am much intrigued by Telegraph's ability to extract from the maelstrom of data a steady, manageable stream of useful information. I my context that bit of information leads me to wonder whether we may split the world's data into (a) a large group that we like to be confident of functioning in our best interest outside our awareness. and (b) a smaller group with great affinity for the human consciousness such as reason, art, affection, etc. This kind of wonderment is relevant to the quality of human existence. But if that is what I am looking for in your posts, if that is what motivates me to read them, will I find myself disappointed in the end and wondering what I have missed while so occupied? Time, too, has its opportunity cost. John, I hope you will appreciate (and others who may have read this far) that in my attempt to edit an e-journal for the Bootstrap Institute the above considerations are never far from my mind. We all, but especially educators and editors, must continually aim to talk in term's of the audience's interests, not primarily in our own. How tough it is! Regards, Henry "John J. Deneen" wrote: > Our world is awash in data > Data pooled in databases and web services, data streaming from > sensors, even data bottled up in small devices. This data is the basis > of life for modern commerce, science, utilites, and other large human > endeavours. It is also critical to any individual who lives in a > world dependent on these institutions. > &c, and two other posts From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Thu Dec 27 09:07:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 9691756F7D; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:07:14 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1135756F7C for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from home ([63.197.14.24]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GP000IGEIUQ8W@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:20:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:21:02 -0800 From: John Maloney Subject: RE: [ba-unrev-talk] Battle Over the Airwaves vs. CITRIS/TinyOS/Telegraph/Cal-(IT)2, Folkstone Designs, and need for Spectrum Policy Reform In-reply-to: <3C2564A8.E1B4E78@netzero.net> To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ejwue6NIH6o8n9CxCkoPHQ)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ejwue6NIH6o8n9CxCkoPHQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT ba-unrev-talk, You may appreciate this book. It is for a lay audience but does cover the material. The Death of Distance, by Francis Cairncross, Frances C. Cairncross What will be the most significant economic factor to shape our future? Renowned Economist writer Frances Cairncross proclaims that it's the "death of distance" caused by the communications revolution. This book suggests that everything will change within the next century, from our relationships with people to our home and work lives to our government. -jtm -----Original Message----- From: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org [mailto:owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org]On Behalf Of John J. Deneen Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:59 PM To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Battle Over the Airwaves vs. CITRIS/TinyOS/Telegraph/Cal-(IT)2, Folkstone Designs, and need for Spectrum Policy Reform Our world is awash in data Data pooled in databases and web services, data streaming from sensors, even data bottled up in small devices. This data is the basis of life for modern commerce, science, utilites, and other large human endeavours. It is also critical to any individual who lives in a world dependent on these institutions. Estimates say that web hypertext (and assorted MIME files) accounts for only 0.2% of the data available on the internet. The rest sits "behind forms" in databases and other non-http servers. As part of telegraph, we're studying how to leverage that data. Telegraph is an adaptive dataflow system, which allows individuals and institutions to access, combine, analyze, and otherwise benefit from this data wherever it resides. As a dataflow system, Telegraph can tap into pooled data stored on the network, and harness streams of live data coming out of networked sensors, software, and smart devices. In order to operate robustly in this volatile, internetworked world, Telegraph is adaptive -- it uses new technologies such as rivers and eddies to route unpredictable and bursty dataflows through computing resources on a network, resulting in a steady, manageable stream of useful information. "In 2010 MEMS sensors will be everywhere, and sensing virtually everything. Scavenging power from sunlight, vibration, thermal gradients, and background RF, sensors motes will be immortal, completely self contained, single chip computers with sensing, communication, and power supply built in. Entirely solid state, and with no natural decay processes, they may well survive the human race. Descendants of dolphins may mine them from arctic ice and marvel at the extinct technology." Context, particularly location, is an important source of information for human-computer interaction. In our project, we examine hardware, networking, and systems issues for a location sensing infrastructure. We present a thorough empirical analysis of the TinyOS RF motes. • E.g., The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) technology. – UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< 1ns) wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy. • UWB system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional communications systems. – Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred over a 10 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power. • UWB system is software controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different functions as needed. "Moore’s law" is catching up to telecom, and the result isn’t going to be pretty for the telcos. Consider instant gigabit communications with NO ONE in control of it. If these things create distributed networks on the fly then every highway with enough traffic density and enough of these things in cars becomes an intercity multi-gigabit communication channel. Even at 900 MHz you can get a citywide data network. That's fascinating -- a "cellular" phone network without towers or other infrastructure. If there were enough of these things scattered around an area, they could (theoretically) all be in communication with each other, providing mobile phone and data service, at least among themselves, with NO company getting any per-minute dollars! Of course that's improbable -- right? There are lots of technical reasons why this couldn't feasibly work. Just like, a few years ago, nobody could imagine a pervasive, flexible data network that would turn many established ways of doing business topsy-turvy, change the landscape of the most successful companies on the planet, and rewrite the rules for commerce -- all within a few years. Now, add the potential of fledgling nanotechnologies into this mix, spawning a swarm of tiny dirt-cheap devices (literally) scattered across the landscape, each providing communications relay services. Suddenly, their collectively providing a pervasive wireless network might not seem so impossible after all! But don't worry -- such industry-shaking changes could never occur. Again. Could they? PRINCIPLES FOR SPECTRUM POLICY REFORM Today the American people collectively own the most valuable resource in the emerging information economy: the airwaves, also known as the electromagnetic spectrum. Auctions conducted last year in Europe and early this year in the U.S. suggest that spectrum occupied by commercial licensees has a market value well in excess of $300 billion. Unfortunately, while high bids by wireless phone companies should be a boon to the ordinary citizens who own the airwaves, high prices also evidence a policy-induced spectrum shortage that threatens to delay the widespread availability and affordability of wireless broadband services. In short, Americans are prisoners of an outdated industrial policy. We are trapped somewhere between the outmoded central-planning approach that characterized Federal Communications Commission (FCC) policy until the mid-1990s, and a new more flexible and market-based approach which, unfortunately, applies only to mobile wireless services. Most of the spectrum is still rigidly “zoned” for exclusive use by industries (viz., broadcasters, private two-way radio services, satellite and fixed wireless services) that pay nothing to use this increasingly scarce and valuable public asset. This outdated zoning and giveaway policy both fails to use a more flexible market mechanism to allocate spectrum and neglects to charge rent to all commercial licensees. This has produced the worst possible outcome: a spectrum shortage, no incentives for efficient use, government picking “winners” and “losers” among industries, and the forfeiture of tens of billions in public revenue. This paper answers the question Senator John McCain asked FCC Chairman Michael Powell at the latter’s confirmation hearing in May: “What principles do you think should guide the FCC in its decision-making” with respect to competing demands for spectrum? In considering principles to guide spectrum reform, it is important to recognize that policymakers face both an immediate and a long-term challenge concerning management of this increasingly valuable public asset. < http://www.newamerica.net/Download_Docs/pdfs/Pub_File_610_1.pdf> SPECTRUM DROUGHT One of the last actions of the (second) Clinton era was a proposal to the FCC to create a "secondary market" for spectrum. Basically, a spectrum-holder would be able to sublease spectrum to other users without a lengthy and expensive negotiation with the FCC. If a company has rights to use spectrum in the U.S., those rights would include the ability to offer it to other companies to use. Such secondary markets would be a boon to smaller service providers that could not afford to compete in spectrum auctions, but could afford to pay some reasonable fee for use of licensed spectrum. Another FCC initiative was to begin serious discussion about "software defined radios" (SDRs) — basically wireless systems that would be "smart" enough to change their behavior based on spectrum conditions. Such behavior might include analyzing what spectrum is in use in the SDR’s immediate area, and — if broadband spectrum — perhaps a television broadcast channel in a very rural area — is available for use, the unit could reconfigure itself to make use of that spectrum. If transmissions are heard, then the unit makes other choices — perhaps use of license-exempt spectrum. NEAR FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES ArrayComm is developing a very promising technology that, in effect, steers high-speed wireless connections to individual users. ArrayComm hopes to offer 1 Mbps connections to semi-stationary users — not suitable for moving vehicles, but works well for pedestrians — and the signal acquisition process is expected to take a few seconds at most. Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology, of which the most prominent vendor is Time Domain, exhibits incredible promise. Basically, UWB is "ultimate spread spectrum" — spreading a wireless signal across a very wide slice of spectrum, and doing so at very low power. UWB technology can, theoretically, share spectrum with other services. Many entrenched wireless communications suppliers, service providers and even government agencies are fighting hard against allowing UWB to become widely used in the U.S. It seems likely that UWB will be deployed widely in other countries before broad deployment in North America. Aperto Networks and Malibu Networks are only two of a number of "next generation" broadband wireless systems manufacturers that will offer highly integrated broadband wireless systems in 2001. Both companies have rethought the problem of broadband wireless Internet access and have tightly integrated a number of disparate wireless technologies. As a result, their systems look very promising, not only for conventional Internet access, but also sufficient quality of service and service differentiation to provide usable television over IP, voice over IP, videoconferencing and other services. Finally, when considering these issues, keep in mind that spectrum is not a finite resource. Spectrum is entirely a creation of technology. Therefore, if the need were to arise — as it likely will if wireless technology continues to grow at an exponential rate — more spectrum can be created with the use of increasingly sophisticated wireless technology. Though this is not currently a reality, it could play an important part in the future of the wireless industry as the current wireless resources are depleted. < http://program.intel.com/solutions/shared/en/resource/insight/techtrends/eco systems.htm > Conclusion: Spectrum Management The need for setting ground rules for how people use the radio spectrum will not disappear. We need to make sure adequate spectrum exists to accommodate the rapid growth in existing services as well as new applications of this national and international resource. Even with new technologies such as software-defined radios and ultra-wideband microwave transmission, concerns about interference will continue (and perhaps grow) and the need for defining licensees and other users' rights will continue to be a critical function of the government. We will thus continue to conduct auctions of available spectrum to speed introduction of new services. In order to protect the safety of life and property, we must also continue to consider public safety needs as new spectrum-consuming technologies and techniques are deployed. (See: "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents" < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html>) References 1) CITRIS - to solve large-scale societal problems affecting the quality of life, such as the energy shortage. < http://citris.berkeley.edu > 2) TinyOS - a self-organizng managing concurrent two-way active messaging and multi-hop ad-hoc sensing/actuator and routing networks for flow-thru communications instead of wait-command-respond. Combining sensing, communications, and computation into a single architecture. Ehe application consists of a number of sensors distributed within a localized area. They monitor the temperature and light conditions and periodically transmit their measurements to a central base station. Each sensor not only acts as a data source, but it may also forward data for sensors that are out of range of the base station. < http://sourceforge.net/projects/tinyos > < http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~kubitron/courses/cs252-F00/projects/reports/proj ect6_report.pdf> 3) 'Smart dust' to the energy rescue - aimed at putting a complete sensing/communication platform inside a cubic millimeter, including power supply, analog and digital electronics, etc. Thousands or millions of these dust motes will all communicate simultaneously. Applications are all over the map. Instrumented hospital rooms so that your syringe knows if you're the right patient or not, instrumented bodies so that we can all participate in 3D virtual ballet, instrumented atmosphere so we can predict weather. < http://www.medserv.no/article.php?sid=261 > < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/packaging2001.ppt > 4) "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical and Biological Agents" - the Smart Dust project is designing devices that will cause massively distributed sensor networks to not only be rapidly deployed, but also nearly vanish into the environment. The capabilities of such systems will dramatically change the way in which chemical and biological agent detection is performed before, during, and after and attack These networks will provide more detailed information, more rapidly, and from more locations than previously possible. < http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-summary.html> 5) Cal-(IT)2 - a Wireless Sensor Network Testbed Proposed to Monitor Pollution < http://www.soe.ucsd.edu/news_events/news_2000/cal_it2proposal.pdf > 6) Telegraph project - an adaptive dataflow system being developed at UC Berkeley for Federated Facts and Figures < http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/cs262proj.html > 7) Migrating Toward the Intelligent Device Bill of Rights < http://www.jacksons.net/tac/FCC-%20TAC%20-%20SDR%20and%20SM%20reg-27Sep00-v1 .ppt > 8) Folkstone Designs: Simple Synergies < http://www.folkstone.ca/wireless.html > --Boundary_(ID_ejwue6NIH6o8n9CxCkoPHQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

ba-unrev-talk,
 
You may = appreciate this=20 book. It is for a lay audience but does cover the=20 material. 
 
The = Death of=20 Distance,
by = Francis = Cairncross, Fra= nces=20 C. Cairncross
What will be the most significant economic factor to shape our = future?=20 Renowned Economist writer Frances Cairncross proclaims that it's = the=20 "death of distance" caused by the communications revolution. This book = suggests=20 that everything will change within the next century, from our = relationships with=20 people to our home and work lives to our government.
 
-jtm
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org=20 [mailto:owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org]On Behalf Of John J.=20 Deneen
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:59 PM
To: = ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org
Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Battle = Over the=20 Airwaves vs. CITRIS/TinyOS/Telegraph/Cal-(IT)2, Folkstone Designs, and = need for=20 Spectrum Policy Reform

Our world is awash in = data=20
Data pooled in databases and web services, data streaming from = sensors, even=20 data bottled up in small devices. This data is the basis of life for = modern=20 commerce, science, utilites, and other large human endeavours.  It = is also=20 critical to any individual who lives in a world dependent on these = institutions.=20

Estimates say that web hypertext (and assorted MIME files) = accounts for=20 only 0.2% of the data available on the internet.  The rest sits = "behind=20 forms" in databases and other non-http servers. As part of telegraph, = we're=20 studying how to leverage that data.=20

Telegraph is an adaptive dataflow system, which allows individuals = and=20 institutions to access, combine, analyze, and otherwise benefit from = this data=20 wherever it resides.  As a dataflow system, Telegraph can tap into = pooled=20 data stored on the network, and harness streams of live data coming out = of=20 networked sensors, software, and smart devices.  In order to = operate=20 robustly in this volatile, internetworked world, Telegraph is adaptive = -- it=20 uses new technologies such as rivers and eddies to route unpredictable = and=20 bursty dataflows through computing resources on a network, resulting in = a=20 steady, manageable stream of useful information.=20

"In 2010 MEMS sensors will be everywhere, and sensing=20 virtually everything. Scavenging power from sunlight, vibration, = thermal=20 gradients, and background RF, sensors motes will be immortal, = completely=20 self contained, single chip computers with sensing, communication, = and power=20 supply built in. Entirely solid state, and with no natural decay = processes,=20 they may well survive the human race.  Descendants of dolphins = may mine=20 them from arctic ice and marvel at the extinct=20 technology."
Context, particularly = location, is an=20 important source of information for human-computer interaction.  In = our=20 project, we examine hardware, networking, and systems issues for a = location=20 sensing infrastructure. We present a thorough empirical analysis of the = TinyOS=20 RF motes.=20

=95 E.g., The communications scheme is based on ultra- wideband (UWB) = technology.
=96 UWB emits rapid sequencing of extremely short (< = 1ns)=20 wideband (> 1 GHz) low power bursts of radio frequency energy. =
=95 UWB=20 system will reduce power, mass and volume over conventional = communications=20 systems.
=96 Analysis has predicted that data can be transferred = over a 10=20 mile range at a T1 rate on 56 mW of average power.
=95 UWB system is = software=20 controlled and reconfigurable in real time to perform different = functions as=20 needed.=20

"Moore=92s law" is catching up to telecom, and the result isn=92t = going to be=20 pretty for the telcos.
Consider instant gigabit communications = with NO=20 ONE in control of it.  If these things create distributed networks = on the=20 fly then every highway with enough traffic density and enough of these = things in=20 cars becomes an intercity multi-gigabit communication channel. Even at = 900 MHz=20 you can get a citywide data network.=20

That's fascinating -- a "cellular" phone network without towers or = other=20 infrastructure.  If there were enough of these things scattered = around an=20 area, they could (theoretically) all be in communication with each = other,=20 providing mobile phone and data service, at least among themselves, with = NO=20 company getting any per-minute dollars!=20

Of course that's improbable -- right?  There are lots of = technical=20 reasons why this couldn't feasibly work.=20

Just like, a few years ago, nobody could imagine a pervasive, = flexible data=20 network that would turn many established ways of doing business = topsy-turvy,=20 change the landscape of the most successful companies on the planet, and = rewrite=20 the rules for commerce -- all within a few years.=20

Now, add the potential of fledgling nanotechnologies into this mix, = spawning=20 a swarm of tiny dirt-cheap devices (literally) scattered across the = landscape,=20 each providing communications relay services.  Suddenly, their = collectively=20 providing a pervasive wireless network
might not seem so impossible = after=20 all!=20

But don't worry -- such industry-shaking changes could never = occur. =20 Again.  Could they?=20

PRINCIPLES FOR SPECTRUM POLICY REFORM
Today the American = people=20 collectively own the most valuable resource in the emerging information = economy:=20 the airwaves, also known as the electromagnetic spectrum. Auctions = conducted=20 last year in Europe and early this year in the U.S. suggest that = spectrum=20 occupied by commercial licensees has a market value well in excess of = $300=20 billion. Unfortunately, while high bids by wireless phone companies = should be a=20 boon to the ordinary citizens who own the airwaves, high prices also = evidence a=20 policy-induced spectrum shortage that threatens to delay the widespread=20 availability and affordability of wireless broadband services.=20

In short, Americans are prisoners of an outdated industrial policy. = We are=20 trapped somewhere between the outmoded central-planning approach that=20 characterized Federal Communications Commission (FCC) policy until the=20 mid-1990s, and a new more flexible and market-based approach which,=20 unfortunately, applies only to mobile wireless services. Most of the = spectrum is=20 still rigidly =93zoned=94 for exclusive use by industries (viz., = broadcasters,=20 private two-way radio services, satellite and fixed wireless services) = that pay=20 nothing to use this increasingly scarce and valuable public asset. This = outdated=20 zoning and giveaway policy both fails to use a more flexible market = mechanism to=20 allocate spectrum and neglects to charge rent to all commercial = licensees. This=20 has produced the worst possible outcome: a spectrum shortage, no = incentives for=20 efficient use, government picking =93winners=94 and =93losers=94 among = industries, and=20 the forfeiture of tens of billions in public revenue.=20

This paper answers the question Senator John McCain asked FCC = Chairman=20 Michael Powell at the latter=92s confirmation hearing in May: =93What = principles do=20 you think should guide the FCC in its decision-making=94 with respect to = competing=20 demands for spectrum? In considering principles to guide spectrum = reform, it is=20 important to recognize that policymakers face both an immediate and a = long-term=20 challenge concerning management of this increasingly valuable public = asset.=20
< = http://www.newamerica.net/Download_Docs/pdfs/Pub_File_610_1.pdf>=20

SPECTRUM DROUGHT
One of the last actions of the (second) = Clinton=20 era was a proposal to the FCC to create a "secondary market" for = spectrum.=20 Basically, a spectrum-holder would be able to sublease spectrum to other = users=20 without a lengthy and expensive negotiation with the FCC. If a =
company has=20 rights to use spectrum in the U.S., those rights would include the = ability to=20 offer it to other companies to use. Such secondary markets would be a = boon to=20 smaller service providers that could not afford to compete in spectrum = auctions,=20 but could afford to pay some reasonable fee for use of licensed = spectrum.=20

Another FCC initiative was to begin serious discussion about = "software=20 defined radios" (SDRs) =97 basically wireless systems that would be = "smart" enough=20 to change their behavior based on spectrum conditions. Such behavior = might=20 include analyzing what spectrum is in use in the SDR=92s immediate area, = and =97 if=20 broadband spectrum =97 perhaps a television broadcast channel in a very = rural area=20 =97 is available for use, the unit could reconfigure itself to make use = of that=20 spectrum. If transmissions are heard, then the unit makes other choices = =97=20 perhaps use of license-exempt spectrum.=20

NEAR FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES
ArrayComm is developing a very = promising=20 technology that, in effect, steers high-speed wireless connections to = individual=20 users. ArrayComm hopes to offer 1 Mbps connections to semi-stationary = users =97=20 not suitable for moving vehicles, but works well for pedestrians =97 and = the=20 signal acquisition process is expected to take a few seconds at most.=20

Ultra-Wideband (UWB) technology, of which the most prominent vendor = is Time=20 Domain, exhibits incredible promise. Basically, UWB is "ultimate spread=20 spectrum" =97 spreading a wireless signal across a very wide slice of = spectrum,=20 and doing so at very low power. UWB
technology can, theoretically, = share=20 spectrum with other services. Many entrenched wireless communications = suppliers,=20 service providers and even government agencies are fighting hard against = allowing UWB to become widely used in the U.S. It seems likely that UWB = will be=20 deployed widely in other countries before broad deployment in North = America.=20

Aperto Networks and Malibu Networks are only two of a number of "next = generation" broadband wireless systems manufacturers that will offer = highly=20 integrated broadband wireless systems in 2001. Both companies have = rethought the=20 problem of broadband wireless
Internet access and have tightly = integrated a=20 number of disparate wireless technologies. As a result, their systems = look very=20 promising, not only for conventional Internet access, but also = sufficient=20 quality of service and service differentiation to provide usable = television over=20 IP, voice over IP, videoconferencing and other services.=20

Finally, when considering these issues, keep in mind that spectrum is = not a=20 finite resource. Spectrum is entirely a creation of technology. = Therefore, if=20 the need were to arise =97 as it likely will if wireless technology = continues to=20 grow at an exponential rate =97 more spectrum can be created with the = use of=20 increasingly sophisticated wireless technology.=20

Though this is not currently a reality, it could play an important = part in=20 the future of the wireless industry as the current wireless resources = are=20 depleted.
< http://program.intel.com/solutions/shared/en/reso= urce/insight/techtrends/ecosystems.htm=20 >=20

Conclusion: Spectrum Management
The need for setting = ground rules=20 for how people use the radio spectrum will not disappear. We need to = make sure=20 adequate spectrum exists to accommodate the rapid growth in existing = services as=20 well as new applications of this national and international resource. = Even with=20 new technologies such as software-defined radios and ultra-wideband = microwave=20 transmission, concerns about interference will continue (and perhaps = grow) and=20 the need for defining licensees and other users' rights will continue to = be a=20 critical function of the government. We will thus continue to conduct = auctions=20 of available spectrum to speed introduction of new services.=20

In order to protect the safety of life and property, we must also = continue to=20 consider public safety needs as new spectrum-consuming technologies and=20 techniques are deployed. (See: "New Approaches for Public Protection = Against=20 Chemical and Biological Agents"
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-= summary.html>)=20
 =20

References
1) CITRIS - to solve large-scale societal = problems=20 affecting the quality of life, such as the energy shortage.
< http://citris.berkeley.edu > =
2)=20 TinyOS  - a self-organizng managing concurrent two-way = active=20 messaging and multi-hop ad-hoc sensing/actuator and routing networks for = flow-thru communications instead of wait-command-respond. Combining = sensing,=20 communications, and computation into a single architecture. Ehe = application=20 consists of a number of sensors distributed within a localized area. = They=20 monitor the
temperature and light conditions and periodically = transmit their=20 measurements to a central base station. Each sensor not only acts as a = data=20 source, but it may also forward data for sensors that are out of range = of the=20 base station. < http://sourceforge.net/pr= ojects/tinyos=20 >
< http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~kubitron/courses/= cs252-F00/projects/reports/project6_report.pdf>=20
3) 'Smart dust' to the energy rescue -  aimed at putting = a=20 complete sensing/communication platform inside a cubic
millimeter, = including=20 power supply, analog and digital electronics, etc. Thousands or millions = of=20 these dust motes will all communicate simultaneously. Applications are = all over=20 the map. Instrumented hospital rooms so that your syringe knows if = you're the=20 right patient or not, instrumented bodies so that we can all participate = in 3D=20 virtual ballet, instrumented atmosphere so we can predict weather.=20
http://www.medserv.n= o/article.php?sid=3D261=20 >
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/packaging2001.ppt=20 >
4) "New Approaches for Public Protection Against Chemical = and=20 Biological Agents" - the Smart Dust project is designing devices = that will=20 cause massively distributed sensor networks to not only be rapidly = deployed, but=20 also nearly vanish into the environment.  The
capabilities of = such=20 systems will dramatically change the way in which chemical and = biological agent=20 detection is performed before, during, and after and attack  These = networks=20 will provide more detailed information, more rapidly, and from more = locations=20 than previously possible.
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~warneke/pubs/cbnp_workshop-= summary.html>=20
5) Cal-(IT)2 - a Wireless Sensor Network Testbed Proposed to = Monitor=20 Pollution
< http://www.soe.ucsd.edu/news_events/news_2000/cal_it2proposal.pdf=20 >
6) Telegraph project - an adaptive dataflow system being = developed at UC Berkeley for Federated Facts and Figures
< http://w= ww.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/cs262proj.html=20 >
7) Migrating Toward the Intelligent Device Bill of = Rights=20
< http://www.jacksons.net/tac/FCC-%20TAC%20-%20SDR%20and%2= 0SM%20reg-27Sep00-v1.ppt=20 >
8) Folkstone Designs: Simple Synergies < http://www.folkstone.ca/wi= reless.html=20 >
 
 

--Boundary_(ID_ejwue6NIH6o8n9CxCkoPHQ)-- From owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Mon Dec 31 17:58:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk-list@bi0.bootstrap.org Received: by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 7FA3E56F82; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:58:44 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Received: from mail.cwo.com (mail1.cwo.com [209.210.78.50]) by bi0.bootstrap.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8756F7E for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from jpark2 (port-st100.cwo.com [208.186.39.110]) by mail.cwo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g012CTXv013942; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:12:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011231180846.023d67f0@thinkalong.com> X-Sender: jackpark@thinkalong.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:09:44 -0800 To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org From: Jack Park Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Neuronal learning observed Cc: howard Liu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org Found this on slashdot. http://www.eetimes.com/story/technology/OEG20011217S0047 "SAN DIEGO =97 Harnessing the photoconductive properties of novel silicon=20 "neurochips," researchers at the University of California, San Diego have=20 been able to directly observe the physical changes that neurons undergo=20 during learning. By non-invasively firing specific neurons grown on a silicon substrate, the= =20 researchers were able to identify the exact physical changes, which were=20 observed with a fluorescent tracer. Laboratory observations during learning= =20 regimes were able to verify the specific physical changes resulting in=20 short- and long-term memories. "