RE: [unrev-II] Outpost Communities

From: Bill Bearden (BBearden@BCL.net)
Date: Mon Feb 07 2000 - 10:45:54 PST


From: "Bill Bearden" <BBearden@BCL.net>

Bernie,

Thanks for the encouraging words. As far as "champion", I would nominate
Daniela or you before me. I have merely found a few things that make sense
to me personally. As has been pointed out, this group is focusing more on
teams than individuals.

I mentioned Csikszentmihalyi's Flow and the Alexander Technique because I
believed they didn't have a spiritual component. Perhaps my understanding of
what is meant by "spirituality" is too limited. Maybe I don't understand
your words "spiritually uplifting".

For me, Flow is about human motivation, one of the most powerful forces we
know. And certainly the harnessing of this force would be a capability (to
use Douglas' words) that would improve many other of our capabilities.

F. M. Alexander's "Technique" is a method of teaching people improved "Use
of Self". Alexander's goal was to overcome habit. Our bad habits constrain
us. The capability to overcome habit would also possibly benefit other
capabilities.

(Back in the 1920's Alexander wrote about difficulty keeping up with the
increased pace of life. I can't imagine what he would think of our world
today. :-)

Bill Bearden

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie DeKoven [mailto:bernie@dekoven.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:59 AM
> To: unrev-II@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [unrev-II] Outpost Communities
>
>
> From: "Bernie DeKoven" <bernie@dekoven.com>
>
> Bill, I am delighted that you are continuing to champion this idea.
>
> I have had some luck introducing the concept of "fun" into the general
> context for teamwork and collaboration. It is a certainly not as
> spiritually
> uplifting as the idea of "flow" or of practicing the Alexandar technique.
> But it does add a level of "humanity" to the dialog, an invitation for a
> more complete participation.
>
> If this topic is of interest, I'd be happy to pursue it further with the
> group. For reference, take a look at
> http://www.coworking.com/html/funfactor.html
>
> Bernie

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Bearden [mailto:BBearden@BCL.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:29 AM
> To: unrev-II@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [unrev-II] Outpost Communities
>
>
> From: "Bill Bearden" <BBearden@BCL.net>
>
> Daniela,
>
> I absolutely agree with the co-evolution part and the self-awareness part.
> In my post Better Humans, Better Information Systems
> (http://www.bootstrap.org/dkr/discussion/0010.html), I stated
> that there are
> two paths that should be explored. The first path was increasing the
> capabilities of people by means other than just traditional training. My
> suggestions in this category are reading and living "Flow"
> (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060920432), and learning and
> practicing The Alexander Technique (http://www.alexandertech.com). But I
> would be surprised if I could convince many that they should do these
> things.
>
> Even if we could agree on one or more techniques for improving
> self-awareness, how does one go about getting people to work on
> it: require
> lessons?
>
> The problem becomes even more difficult when we discuss spirituality.
> Zealotry ("we are the chosen therefore we are right and you are wrong") is
> easily awakened. Avoid zealotry by focusing on our common beliefs? Good
> luck.
>
> Bill Bearden
>
> <<snippage>>
>
> > From: Daniela U.Trocan <dtconsult@netscape.net>
> >
>
> <<snippage>>
>
> >
> > I propose that any effort of finding technological answers to our
> > problems as
> > a global society should be accomponied by an equal effort to develop
> > techniques of evolving our conscience / self-awareness /
> > spiritual dimension.
> >
>
> <<snippage>>
>

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