RE: [unrev-II] "As We May Think", The Exploratories Project & a Tour of Mindmapping Links

From: Dennis E. Hamilton (dennis.hamilton@acm.org)
Date: Thu Jul 12 2001 - 08:28:42 PDT

  • Next message: Peter Jones: "Re: [unrev-II] "As We May Think", The Exploratories Project & a Tour of Mindmapping Links"

    Thanks for this.

    I am often too slow in being suspicious of theses that aren't based on
    recognition and ownership of (and compassion for) the prospect that we are
    all alike. The Categorical Imperative is a great place to stand in
    reviewing my own arguments!

    I have a practice, that I don't always apply in time, is that every time I
    find myself demonizing another, I am looking in a mirror.

    -- Dennis

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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Peter Jones [mailto:ppj@concept67.fsnet.co.uk]
      Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 06:03
      To: unrev-II@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [unrev-II] "As We May Think", The Exploratories Project & a
    Tour of Mindmapping Links

      Ah, then I don't agree with your thesis. For one thing, I don't think the
    two sides of the brain divide their agendas in the way you hope for most
    people. What if my heart is one that simply believes that I should do
    whatever I fancy? And what if the left-side of my brain then conspires with
    my right side to say that I should do whatever I fancy as long as I can get
    away with it under the rules of the system? Next thing you know I could be
    forcing software on folks and dancing a jig at the same time because the
    legal system is ropey and outmoded in some areas.
      It all boils down to the consideration of others, and at present there are
    aspects of life where the rules of the system allow you ignore the issue
    rather too much.
      John 'maddog' Hall's views in Eric Armstrong's recent post, and your need
    to edit John Deneen's post about entrepreneurship are evidence of this.

      There has been a great deal of effort expended in philosophy trying to
    make the ethical a matter of rational decision for precisely these reasons.
    Present ethical philosophy is still some way ahead of the legal system in
    many matters in this respect, but I believe its theoretical approach has to
    be proven to marry with significant aspects of legal precedent before moves
    to alter the legal system can be made.

      Cf. Immanuel Kant, and the seminal works of Martha Nussbaum if you really
    want to go for it.

      cheers,
      Peter

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Henry van Eyken
        To: unrev-II@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:56 AM
        Subject: Re: [unrev-II] "As We May Think", The Exploratories Project & a
    Tour of Mindmapping Links

        Peter.
        I meant with the statement roughly that there are circumstances under
    which the heart ought to guide the perceived selfinterest or, again roughly,
    where the right-brain should keep the left-brain in check.

        Henry

        Peter Jones wrote:

          Hi, Yes, I'd understood that point. >In other words, our affect ought
    to do a better job of directing our intellect. I'm not sure I really
    understood this last point though, because affects are usually spoken of in
    relation to peripheral nervous system response to stimuli in all the
    literature I've read. Etc., etc.

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