Re: [unrev-II] Profound Thinking (was: Improving education (why are we doing what?))

From: Jack Park (jackpark@verticalnet.com)
Date: Tue Feb 22 2000 - 14:45:59 PST


No accomodation needed for my part. Just a clean way to organize the two distinct threads.
Jack
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  From: Gil Regev
  To: unrev-II@onelist.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [unrev-II] Profound Thinking (was: Improving education (why are we doing what?))

  From: "Gil Regev" <gil.regev@epfl.ch>

  Don't you think that by separating the list in 2 you will also be creating a divide that will make it much more difficult to borrow ideas from one to the other? Isn't the fact that "the discussions themselves so mutually antipathetic to many important contributors" just a sign of the need for accomodation as described by Henry?

  Gil
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:eric.armstrong@eng.sun.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:35 PM
    To: unrev-II@onelist.com
    Subject: Re: [unrev-II] Profound Thinking (was: Improving education (why are we doing what?))

    From: Eric Armstrong <eric.armstrong@eng.sun.com>

    Jack Park wrote:
>
> It strikes me that the topics of:
> mathematics of knowledge
> methods of learning/teaching
>
> are, themselves, so profound in their importance...that a second
> list for such explorations might be started, and leave this or
> another list to the nitty-gritty of implementation issues.
>
    I think you are correct. Two lists are needed, at a minimum.
    One is a "content" list, where issues like those above are
    discussed. The other is an "implementation" list, where possible
    designs and methodologies are discussed.

    Implementation issues are deep and long. Those discussions will
    choke off content discussions. But it is the content discussions
    that provide motivation and delineate the purpose(s) that
    direct the design work.

    On the other hand, content discussions will tend to be widely
    diverse and far ranging. Those discussions will put off the
    folks who want to narrow their focus, dig in, and get something
    built. Without those discussions and the work that results from
    them, the content discussions will remain so many breezes in the
    air, with no concrete results.

    The goals of the two discussions are so diverse, the discussions
    themselves so mutually antipathetic to many important contributors,
    and the sheer volume of each so large, that two lists strikes me
    as an absolute necessity.

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