Hi Nicholas
Thanks for those precisions and second thoughs ;-)
Keep looking at what is going on in TM field !
The XTM Authoring Group has just had a very constructive meeting in Paris.
Finalization of XTM 1.0 should occur within one month now, have a look from
now on at:
http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/
FYI : Variant number for available X .... is about 26^n , for n letters in
the string after X.
Apart from XTM, XXX is no more available as far as I know ;-)
Cheers
Bernard
----- Message d'origine -----
De : N. C a r r o l l <ncarroll@inreach.com>
À : <unrev-II@egroups.com>
Envoyé : lundi 22 janvier 2001 20:47
Objet : Re: [unrev-II] Re : New Knowledge Technology Seminars in February
and March
> Hello Bernard:
>
> > Your judgment about Infoloom and Topic Maps is ... well ... let's say
> > definitive !
>
> Opinionated? :-)
>
> > Some remarks about it :
> >
> > About style sheets:
> > 1. Do you make an allusion to the way Infoloom uses or not proper style
> > sheets in its HTML website,
> > or do you refer to the general HTML / style sheets relationship ?
>
> The latter. More below....
>
> > 2. It's a pity Infoloom didn't give up this image of "style sheets for
> > knowledge", which carries a very misleading image of Topic Maps, as
your
> > remarks tend to prove once more. Every other actor in the Topic Maps
> > community has given up that image as far as I know. Well, we've got now
> > "GPS for the Web" which is not a fantastic communication tagline either
...
>
> Hmm. Yes, an unfortunate comparison. Sloppy HTML style sheets are
> part of design, which is sold by emotion anyway, to people who neither
> test usability nor look at source HTML. Topic Map customers might be
> more rigorous!
>
> > Anyway ...The remark 2. contains the implicit fact that, even if
Michel
> > Biezunski, one of the "fathers" of the Topic Maps paradigm, is at the
head
> > of Infoloom, the paradigm itself has gained a far wider scope. See
what's
> > happening at www.topicmaps.org to maybe make up your mind and have some
> > second thoughts about it.
>
> Thanks, had a look at the ISO spec. Well, I went as far as second
> thoughts. XTM, eh? I wonder how many variants of X are still
> available.
>
> Nicholas
>
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> > PS : Please note I'm involved in Topic Maps development, but not in
> > Infoloom itself.
>
> Had a look at your web site. Liked this line: "... Such a process is
> never really achieved, but the Topic Map author has to consider it is
> somehow, if any Map at all is to be built...."
>
> Agreed. Matteo Ricci's palace of memory was meant to be extended.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > Bernard Vatant
> > bernard@universimmedia.com
> > www.universimmedia.com
> > "Building Knowledge"
> > ---------------------------------------
>
>
> > ----- Message d'origine -----
> > De : N. C a r r o l l <ncarroll@inreach.com>
> > À : <unrev-II@egroups.com>
> > Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2001 23:56
> > Objet : Re: [unrev-II] Fw: New Knowledge Technology Seminars in
February
> > and March
> >
> > > Jack Park wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > New knowledge technology workshops will be offered this February
and
> > March
> > > > by InfoLoom, Inc. in
> > > > > Washington DC, New York, Chicago, Austin and Dallas
> > >
> > > Visualizing information has been around for awhile. Far as I can
> > > see, it's the proposed *standardization* that's new. But I
> > > wonder if they get it.
> > >
> > > On their corporate info page, Infoloom writes:
> > > "... We have long understood the idea of creating style sheets to
> > > control
> > > the formatting and layout of information. Topic Maps introduces the
> > > concept of creating style sheets to control knowledge-based
information
> > > access and navigation...."
> > >
> > > Long mis-understood, judging by what I see in HTML.
> > > I expect the same for topic maps.
> > >
> > > Nicholas
>
>
>
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