Re: Future views of the Millennium Project

From: Grant Bowman (grantbow@svpal.org)
Date: Mon Jul 23 2001 - 17:19:38 PDT


Jerome,

The ideas behind the OHS are laid out in Doug's paper
http://www.bootstrap.org/a2h/BI/2120.html After speaking with him just
now, I know that in general he would like feedback on this plan. I am
writing a document further detailing the beginning steps of an OHS, what
he and I call a Hyperscope.

One of the key distinctions between the environment that Doug works with
in Augment and the general WWW is what is innocently called
"addressability." A first step in helping facilitate the kind of
environment that I would like to see would be to encourage the numerous
websites that produce research to use "purple numbers." Two pieces of
software written for this purpose are Purple by Eugene Eric Kim and
Plink by Murray Altheim.

        http://www.eekim.com/software/purple/

        http://www.doctypes.org/plink/

Why would you want these numbers? The next step in use would have to do
with enhancing current browsers to make use of these purple numbers to
enhance knowledge work as described in several of Doug's other papers.
I also will outline some of this in my forthcoming paper.

Another concept within addressability used in Augment is that of a
"Journal." In Augment, this was an official static library of reference
documents that were serially numbered. Encouragement of static URL
locations for cited research would serve a similar function on the WWW.

These are simple steps that are readily achievable. The more complex
tasks come with how to bring all of this information together. The 2120
paper above hopefully speaks to some of these needs. As pointed out,
this problem is not trivial. Dangers in implementations are numerous.
The W3C Semantic Web effort is working on ideas that also address this
area. I invite anyone interested in discussing the technical concepts
further to participate in the ohs-dev mail list.

        http://www.bootstrap.org/ohs2/discussion.html

--
-- Grant Bowman                                   <grantbow@svpal.org>

* Jerome C. Glenn <jglenn@igc.org> [010719 11:36]: > Grant, what would be the sequence of steps you see MP doing and Bootstrap > doing? > > Jerry > > At 12:44 AM 7/19/2001 -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > >Jerome, > > > >As I know you are already aware, work is progressing with new > >collaboration technologies. I have been working with Douglas Engelbart > >for the past year trying to help move forward and now develop support > >resources to further the development of a system targeted at > >facilitation of complex, urgent problem solving and specializing in > >inter-disciplinary knowledge work. http://www.bootstrap.org > > > >We presently have worked out many functional parts of a system involving > >XHTML, HTTP, RDF, NODAL, IBIS and CoDIAK. The system would begin as > >what we call a Hyperscope and evolve into an Open Hyperdocument System. > > > >Perhaps the issues of integration of numerous websites that are > >publishing relevent data on this scale could be used as a target for us > >all. > > > >Regards, > > > >-- > >-- Grant Bowman <grantbow@svpal.org> > > > > > >* Jerome C. Glenn <jglenn@igc.org> [010718 15:17]: > >> >From Heiner: > >> > >> >Jerry if you as a bridge between GO's and NGO's worlds will help > >> >to moderate and steer such an effort, it will be certainly not only be > >> >appreciated but a real FUTURISTIC TASK. The scope of the MP > >> >is certainlly not onyl multi-lingual and multi-cultural - but also > >> >multi-scales ! the issue is how to communicate and bridge the > >> >items and issues. > >> > >> How to prevent a coordination of coordinators leading to no real action? > >> Or maybe a better question is what would MP do differently? > >> > >> >From Rubin: > >> > >> >In my view, the most pressing need is at a level above those you list; > >> >although it is a good list. None of the projects is trivial. The most > >> >basic lack is a truly effective, global network of persons and > organizations > >> >doing serious futures and strategic foresight work. > >> > >> Gee, I sorta thought that's what the Millennium Project was making pretty > >> good progress at. > >> > >> >We are just finishing a 5 year process to create the infrastructure > that is > >> >required in Canada which reflects this approach. While slow in some ways > >> >the results are proving the worth of our commitment to design and not just > >> >do. > >> > >> Excellent, I'm sure the Millennium Project Nodes would love to cooperate. > >> The MP feasibility study too three years, plus a one year pre-feasibility > >> study. > >> > >> >Of course, the first step is to test for prima facia interest and then > >> >design the design process. > >> > > >> >We have already had informal discussions with a dozen or so organizations > >> >along these lines. There is interest in doing it. We would be pleased to > >> >pull our weight, both in designing the process of design and then in > >> >undertaking it. > >> > > >> >If, helpful, I'll come to Minneapolis for your meeting. > >> > >> Were you not already planning to come the the World Future Society > >> conference in Minneapolis? > >> > >> Jerry Glenn > >> http://acunu.org > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> AC/UNU Millennium Project > >> 4421 Garrison Street, NW > >> Washington, DC 20016 > >> tel/fax: (202) 686-5179 > >> http://millennium-project.org > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to: > >> MP_public-off@talklist.com > >> > >

-- -- Grant Bowman <grantbow@svpal.org>



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