Re: [unrev-II] Is "bootstrapping" part of the problem?

From: Eric Armstrong (eric.armstrong@eng.sun.com)
Date: Thu Jan 04 2001 - 21:19:01 PST

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    As for the first, I found Conklin's papers to be a more
    eloquent exposition of the same concept. I'll let others
    review the next two.

    "John J. Deneen" wrote:
    >
    > After reviewing several of the ICASIT.org Knowledge Management Case
    > Studies, I found the following three links that might be useful for
    > "bootstrapping" our interests in:
    >
    > * email thread management
    > * enterprise ontology, and
    > * an Ontology Editor that supports distributed, collaborative
    > editing, browsing and creation of Ontolingua ontologies.
    >
    > 1) Corporate Memories for Knowledge Management in Industrial Practice:
    > Prospects and Challenges
    > http://www.jucs.org/jucs_3_8/corporate_memories_for_knowledge/paper.html#[wolfandreimer1996]
    >
    > 2) Overview of the Enterprise Ontology
    > http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/enterprise/
    >
    > 3) The Ontology Editor is a tool that supports distributed,
    > collaborative editing, browsing and creation of Ontolingua ontologies.
    >
    > http://www-ksl-svc.stanford.edu:5915/FRAME-EDITOR/&sid=ANONYMOUS&user-id=ALIEN
    >
    > Jack Park wrote:
    >
    > > From: Henry van Eyken <vaneyken@sympatico.ca>
    > > > On threadmaster.
    > > >
    > > > The thread, I feared - well, still do - may collapse under its own
    > > weight.
    > > That
    > > > would be a pity. Some contributors appear to feel the same and
    > > have made
    > > some
    > > > effort at condensing some of the ideas presented. And thgis led me
    > > to the
    > > notion
    > > > of persons interested in "taking charge" of a particular thread or
    > > related
    > > > threads to function as a threadmaster. The threadmaster would
    > > organize,
    > > strip,
    > > > encourage, seek solutions to conundrums, seek external sources o
    > > expertise,
    > > > edit, etc. and eventually contribute a story to the Bootstrap
    > > site. That
    > > story
    > > > would be consensual in the sense that authors in the thread are
    > > not
    > > slighted,
    > > > that they agree to how they have been represented, etc. One might
    > > say that
    > > the
    > > > threadmaster, in the words of a famous contributor to this forum,
    > > turns
    > > > information into knowledge or, phrasing it along not too
    > > dissimilar a
    > > line,
    > > > makes information into a story for a better sticking to people's
    > > mental
    > > ribs.
    > > >
    > > > Threadmasters would function one thread at a time and after
    > > completing a
    > > thread
    > > > (perhaps serve to bring out a modified version once in awhile)
    > > take a
    > > deserved
    > > > rest to later get fired up again and put his/her experience to
    > > bear on
    > > another
    > > > thread.
    > > >
    > > > Isn't this the sort of thing that may make good discussion forums
    > > better,
    > > more
    > > > widely useful discussion forums?
    > > >
    > > > Henry
    > >
    > > For me, if for no-one else here, perhaps the most illuminating
    > > suggestion on
    > > this list has been Eric Armstrong's notion that IBIS can/should
    > > manage
    > > threads. I once poked out the idea that a Beadmaster was needed
    > > (Herman
    > > Hesse: _The Glass Bead Game_). I have recently suggested that what
    > > is also
    > > needed is a kind of central repository of words and their meanings
    > > (an
    > > ontology) such that all threads can remain 'on the same page', or,
    > > at least,
    > > drift from the page with complete visibility of the drift and its
    > > intentions. Threadmasters, it seems to me, is an idea that wants to
    > > find a
    > > common ground in all these suggestions.
    > >
    > > In another illuminating post here, Garold Johnson points out, very
    > > clearly,
    > > IMHO, some problems associated with a priori structure in a
    > > discussion
    > > space, and suggests continual refactoring as a means of at least
    > > controlling
    > > such issues.
    > >
    > > Get this: nbci.com is announcing (at least on TV) that they have
    > > something
    > > called QuikClick or words to that effect. The idea is this: click
    > > on any
    > > word and you get a popup with links to more information on that
    > > particular
    > > word (or phrase, whatever you have highlited).
    > >
    > > It seems to me that we are beginning to see evidence of a larger
    > > interest in
    > > an underlying ontology (even if it's not called that), thread
    > > management,
    > > and tools that implement such things.
    > >
    > > I am responding to this by working 'bottom up' in a long list of
    > > holliday
    > > email. It is conceivable that others have already responded to this
    > > thread.
    > > This morning promises to be an interesting one!
    > >
    > > Happy new year to all.
    > > Jack
    > >
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