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Re: [ba-unrev-talk] further research and thinking related to unrev-ii archive

Great work!
The second interface in the search is interesting indeed.    (01)

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From: <cdent@burningchrome.com>
To: <ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] further research and thinking related to unrev-ii
archive    (02)

> Kathryn and I have done a bit more work with the unrev-ii list
> archive. Nothing major, but since this is something I requested
> from the Bootstrap Alliance on the existing forums, I figured I
> ought to report that I've done it on the old list.
> Our work has involved processing messages from the unrev-ii
> archive that we have parsed into a database. We have a few
> interfaces to that data, including a CGI which will eventually
> allow community members to code the messages for value and
> aboutness. We'll use that information to help create a faceted
> access structure for the archive.
> That CGI has been updated to fix a bug. In the past when a set of
> message were retrieved individual messages from that set would be
> displayed with a "prev" and "next" link. Those links led to the
> previous and next messages in the entire dataset, not the
> selected set. That has been fixed. It wasn't so much a bug as me
> being lazy in my coding. Now, if you feel so inclined, you can
> retrieve the entire collection of messages from Eric Armstrong
> (he is the single most frequent contributor by number of
> messages) and easily read them in chronological order, jumping
> out into the threads for context, if desired.
> A few months ago I asked about getting a free text search
> interface to the forums hosted on bootstrap.org. Since I had it
> from the database parsing, I parsed the unrev-ii archive into
> mhonarc and indexed it with ffw. FFW pays attention to name tags
> in HTML to the index is down to the purple number. This may or
> may not be effective. If people try it, I would appreciate
> hearing comments. The CGI interface for the search system is very
> crude compared to modern stuff, I'm just using the sample code
> provide with the (old) system.
> If people are interested I can create similar search interfaces
> to the ba-unrev-talk and ba-ohs-talk lists.
> These various things are linked to the following page:
>   http://www.burningchrome.com/~cdent/uviz/
> Please let me know if you have any comments.
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 cdent@burningchrome.com wrote:
> > Back in April Kathryn La Barre and I announced, on this list,
> > some work we were doing with computational methods for generating
> > faceted access structures to the archive of the unrev-ii (the
> > list that is the precursor to this one) email list.
> >
> > Since then a paper describing the work and its relevance to the
> > PORT project was written for the Pragmatic Web Workshop at the
> > 10th International Conference on Conceptual Structures. Much of
> > the workshop was held over email. For Kathryn and I the email
> > collaboration led to an extensive revision of the paper. We had
> > something of a revelation about the nature of knowledge
> > representation and discourse that may be of interest.
> --
> Chris Dent  <cdent@burningchrome.com>  http://www.burningchrome.com/~cdent/
> "If you assume that there is an instinct for freedom, that there are
> opportunities to change things, that hope is possible, then hope may be
> justified, and a better world may be built. That's your choice.'' N.Chomsky
>    (03)