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Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Creating Applications With Mozilla

I'd like an evaluation of the development environment from
someone whose opinion I trust. (Like Martin Fowler, for
instance.)    (01)

I'm skeptical that the technologies included in the combination
are "best of breed", in any meaningful sense.    (02)

I like the fact that is extensible. That is absolutely the right kind
of design framework.    (03)

I'd just rather be working in some more elegant environment,
like NeXT / Objective C.    (04)

Jack Park wrote:    (05)

> The entire O'Reilly book of that title is online in html at
> http://books.mozdev.org/chapters/index.html
> "The contents of this book are being made available under the terms of the
> Open Publication License. The following HTML files contain all of the
> content for each chapter but do not currently contain the figures in-line.
> All screenshots and images in the book are available seperately on the
> Figures page. "
> The entire book itself is on-sale at http://www.bookpool.com for $22.75
> (43%off for a limited time). (No, I don't own stock in bookpool, but they
> have the best price on my book _XML Topic Maps_, too).
> "Mozilla is not just a Web browser. Mozilla is also a framework for
> building cross-platform applications using standards such as CSS (Cascading
> Style Sheets), XML languages such as XUL (XML-based User-interface
> Language), XBL (eXtensible Binding Language), and RDF (Resource Description
> Framework), as well as Gecko, Mozilla's rendering engine, and other
> technologies.
> The Mozilla development framework also makes use of programming languages
> such as JavaScript, C++, C, Python, and IDL (Interface Definition
> Language), plus framework technologies such as XPConnect and XPCOM,
> Mozilla's component model.
> In addition to Netscape's Mozilla-based browsers (Netscape 6.x and 7.x),
> the Mozilla framework has been used to create other browsers such as Galeon
> and Chimera, and chat clients such as ChatZilla and JabberZilla. Developers
> have also used Mozilla to create development tools, browser enhancements,
> and games, as well as many other types of add-ons and applications.
> This book explains how applications are created with Mozilla and provides
> step-by-step information about how you can create your own programs using
> Mozilla's powerful cross-platform development framework. This book also
> includes examples of many different types of existing applications to
> demonstrate some of the possibilities of Mozilla development. "
> I think a marriage of Mozilla, OpenOffice, and lthe tools coming out of KMi
> (http://kmi.open.ac.uk) might be one really useful way to kickoff an OHS
> project. I suppose it can be argued that this suggestion is limited to
> implementation issues and doesn't really deal with use cases, requirements
> and all the other things going on in design.  As it turns out, I happen to
> subscribe to the XP notion of release early, release often, and this
> suggestion opens the door to visualization of ways in which rough
> prototypes can be released early.
> Cheers
> Jack
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> XML Topic Maps: Creating and Using Topic Maps for the Web.
> Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-74960-2.
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